Which is damage item is better on Shen?

ExecutorDill·Aug 2, 2015·2 votes·1,021 views

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jjookkeerrAug 3, 20152 votes

shen dont need damage

ExecutorDillAug 3, 20151 votes

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shen dont need damage

Then how will he take towers and contribute to teamfights? He only has one form of CC and it is best used to capture fleeing enemies or escape... Not to initiate because in SoloQ most players won't be competent enough to CC the enemy right after you use it.

Old Man TeetoAug 3, 20152 votes

item 3068 - Standard item 3091 - vs heavy AP item 3078 - Fed

BotRK if vs super tanky team is acceptable, but very situational. You typically want a team composition that has enough damage for you to be tank tank and not need to build offensive, so if you're building BotRK to fight other tanks... well wet noodle fights are funny.

ExecutorDillAug 3, 20151 votes

Wits End is Superb even against a non heavy AP team. It's Attack Speed reduces the wait time on Ki Strike goes off and increases your Vorpal Blade Heal and physical dps.

Not to mention, steals magic resist making your passive, Q and E.

Morgy MorgyAug 2, 20151 votes

tri force and botrk work really well for me i would just go tri force though

ExecutorDillAug 2, 20151 votes

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tri force and botrk work really well for me i would just go tri force though

But tri is soo expensive, and it's stats are all over the place.

BakedLotionAug 2, 20151 votes

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But tri is soo expensive, and it's stats are all over the place.

Get phage into sheen then zeal. (although once u get enough for zeal u can prob buy the entire thing since the combine cost is 73)

EndlessSorcererAug 2, 20151 votes

You forgot item 3091 which makes you more durable and reduces enemy MR.

I believe that you generally purchase Blade of the Ruined King when the enemy team has several tanky champions, Trinity Force when the enemies are mostly squishy, and Wit's End when you need to be more durable.

No matter which one you choose though, you typically won't purchase a damage item until you have finished a couple defensive items.

ExecutorDillAug 2, 20151 votes

Lol I probably should have stated that I build 1 damage item with Wit's then go full tank.

ExecutorDillAug 2, 20151 votes

I go for damage then defense.

item 3022 item 3091 item 3111 item 3143 item 3075

Frozen gives good tankyness for it's damage so it's ok. But lately i've been looking at item 3074 for it's waveclear aspect and it's health regen and lifesteal that compliment Shen's Vorpal Heal quite nicely.

EndlessSorcererAug 2, 20151 votes

I'll typically go for defense and then damage myself. I'll typically get something like: item 3068 item 3143 item 3091 item 3075

If provides a lot of extra magic and some magic penetration to amplify it without sacrificing durability.

ExecutorDillAug 3, 20151 votes

That's the problem with Shen, he sacrifices waay to much to build damage.

ExecutorDillAug 3, 20151 votes

I build him with Ki Stike in mind

5D ParagonAug 2, 20151 votes

Trinity is possibly the best. If you're looking for superior splitpushing, then Ravenous. The rest are meh.

GamerThinkAug 2, 20151 votes

Huh I don't think a 700 hp item should be considered "damage item" ^^ item 3022

Pretty DhiziAug 3, 20151 votes

Do consider that your passive is a key aspect of Shens damage..

AKA..He's more effective the more health he gets. If you want health, damage, and some utility, Black cleaver.

ExecutorDillAug 3, 20151 votes

Kk... Sounds good. I haven't t4ied it on shen but it seems ok.

MLDzXnRRRAug 3, 20151 votes

Get Tiamat for fast pushing and tp when needed. BORK is for dueling, some get triforce too.

SasogwaAug 3, 20151 votes

item 3077 is pretty terrible on Shen. I mean, it solves his kit's problem (0 waveclear) but aside from that, the stats are very bad on him.

I'd rather get item 3068 if I want waveclear. The fact that shen is bad at pushing towers is in his kit, not really about the itemization. It's kind of a limitation to his very unique splitpush pressure; thanks to his ult.

Overall, you don't really need any offensive items. At best I'd get item 3153 or item 3078 , but in lategame, and if I somehow need the damage. Don't forget that you're mostly there for the utility you provide, and also you'll deal a lot with a item 3075 especially if you're very beefy already.

ExecutorDillAug 3, 20151 votes

But item 3077 builds into item 3074 . Surely it'd be great for splitpushing and Skirmishes. The lifesteal and health regen synergize really well with his Vorpal Blade heal.

SasogwaAug 3, 20152 votes

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But builds into . Surely it'd be great for splitpushing and Skirmishes. The lifesteal and health regen synergize really well with his Vorpal Blade heal.

They don't synergize at all. His passive is flat + % bonus health every X seconds, reduced by autoattacking. It synergizes with attack speed, health, and spirit visage passive. It has literally 0 synergy with Hydra.

Hydra is good for ad casters because it provides burst with an AA-reset dealing damage based on how much AD you have. Shen doesn't build that much AD, or arpen, has 0 ad ratios. Hydra is also pretty terrible at duelling, unless you can oneshoot your target, which you can't with Shen.

It's like saying (random example) that BT has synergy with Irelia's W or WW's passive because it's sustain as well. Uhm, sorry but no.

ExecutorDillAug 3, 20151 votes

Ok maybe the word I chose (synergy) wasn't the best, but it simultaneously gives you sustain outside your VB (which is good to conserve that energy for CC needs like 2 E's in a teamfight.) which in addition to your VB heal gives some great sustain. Regen, life steal and VB heal. Also when you pick up your item 3065 it will increase the heal of all 3.

Solo JoshAug 3, 20151 votes

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ExecutorDillAug 3, 20151 votes

Only one armor item? How do you survive good sir?

Solo JoshAug 3, 20151 votes

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ExecutorDillAug 3, 20151 votes

I wreck teemo you do you know how many times I 1v1 Teemo top and got first blood because he thought he could outrade shen with his magic damahe and blind. I just went attack speed on marks and started with a item 1028 . I also also never learned my abiliities at the start of the trade because Ki Strike did enough and also (I was contemplating whether to take Q or E) I picked up he and only used it when he ran away because he was low. 1 time i killed him and got First Blood. In another I had to follow up ignite and still got first blood xD

ExecutorDillAug 3, 20151 votes

I'm curious as to the pushing power of item 3074 item 3068 and item 3512 together. You'd probably be able to neglect top lane forever.

ExecutorDillAug 3, 20151 votes

item 3022 item 3143 item 3111 item 3091 item 3065 item 3075

9x Flat Attack Speed Marks [13.5% Atk Spd] 3x Flat Attack Speed Quints [15.3% Atk Spd] 9x Flat Armor Seals [41 with base and masteries] 3x Flat Magic Resist Glyphs [4 mr... 42 with base and masteries] 6x Flat CDR Glyphs [5% cdr... 10% with sorcery mastery]

Shoot Them DeadAug 3, 20151 votes

item 3116

ExecutorDillAug 3, 20151 votes

See this is why I take item 3022 . more health. Bit of AD for stronger DPS. And a perman slow. Rylai's does however work good with item 3151 .

Shoot Them DeadAug 3, 20151 votes

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See this is why I take . more health. Bit of AD for stronger DPS. And a perman slow. Rylai's does however work good with .

No it should be your only damage item. Its cost effective, provides some extra CC, and also buffs up your passive alot. Anymore then that and you aren't going to tank anything.

ExecutorDillAug 3, 20151 votes

You mean Rylai's? Cost effectiveness is only important early to mid game. Late game your gonna want the most out of your build. {The most expensive items that are the most effective against the enemy team comp}

Shoot Them DeadAug 3, 20151 votes

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You mean Rylai's? Cost effectiveness is only important early to mid game. Late game your gonna want the most out of your build. {The most expensive items that are the most effective against the enemy team comp}

Playing around lategame is dumb

ExecutorDillAug 3, 20151 votes

I also believe early game play has somewhat a signuficance. But I've seen some of them most one sided matches be turned around so you have to prepare for mid to late game. I'm telling you.

NemeBroAug 3, 20151 votes

item 3087 item 3285 item 3124 item 3078 item 3153 item 1306