"we will take Sejuani W, and put it on Xin zhao"

Ahristocats·Sep 11, 2017·11 votes·1,029 views

https://i.gyazo.com/f37e066f91f475bcd3c7d60045eb61ca.png Love it

this is what desining has become skillshots and delayed spells everywhere

except on marksmen's dps tied to crit

39 Comments

Mens Hair ClubSep 11, 201711 votes

rengar's Q*

a mechanic so nice we have to use it thrice Rengar Sejuani XinZhao

Chembaron YamadaSep 12, 20172 votes

To be fair, Rengar has a small dash attached to it. He is special!

waiting for WoWSep 11, 20173 votes

And what would you call Kalista spear, or rend exactly?

Not to mention Xayah Q and Bladecaller and ult?

Varus Q

Ashe R

You get the point

AhristocatsSep 11, 20173 votes

ashe and varus afk right click you in late game same with xayah

no adc bother to hit spells in late game since they can kill you in 3 sec with rightlicks

Critmaster GarenSep 11, 20173 votes

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ashe and varus afk right click you in late game same with xayah

no adc bother to hit spells in late game since they can kill you in 3 sec with rightlicks

its funny that Ezreal is considered trash amongst marksmen, just because hes one of the few of the bunch with his dps based on a mechanic with counterplay.

a major portion of his dps dependent if his player can consistently hit his q. and thats not even a very difficult mechanic.

im so disappointed in the live balance team that they actually buffed him, instead of tuning down the other marksmen, and looking into adding counterplay to their kits aswell.

AhristocatsSep 11, 20172 votes

doesn't really matter imo

they buffed his q ad ratio, if you dodge his q nothing changed he will remain bad

Critmaster GarenSep 11, 20174 votes

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doesn't really matter imo

they buffed his q ad ratio, if you dodge his q nothing changed he will remain bad

thats just the thing. hes not even bad. a good ezreal is perfectly capable of carrying games. they were so before the buffs.

its just that hes not the level of broken that twitch, kog maw and tristana are.

SalronSep 11, 20172 votes

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its funny that is considered trash amongst marksmen, just because hes one of the few of the bunch with his dps based on a mechanic with counterplay.

Ezreal is considered trash ADC because he's forced to have 0 earlygame prescence due to having to build towards muramana to have any lategame relevance, because he can't make use of crit nearly as well as other ADCs ever since Triforce lost it's crit

His dps skill having counterplay has absolutely nothing to do with that

Critmaster GarenSep 11, 20175 votes

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Ezreal is considered trash ADC because he's forced to have 0 earlygame prescence due to having to build towards muramana to have any lategame relevance, because he can't make use of crit nearly as well as other ADCs ever since Triforce lost it's crit

His dps skill having counterplay has absolutely nothing to do with that

isnt that how marksmen are supposed to scale though. ramping up with game time?

seems more like his scaling is fine, and the other marksmen are out of whack when he cant keep up with them.

Spank the FoxSep 12, 20173 votes

You do realize if ADCs scaled any slower without any global changes, tanks and bruisers will run over them again, right?

Part of "ADCs in 2k17" was the fact an ADC needed 4 full items specialized to dent a 2 item tank, and this was prior to Stoneplate and Bramble.

LordGeovanniSep 12, 20171 votes

then they would have a role in the game beyond adc peel. Adc 2k17 was stupidness because adcs and assassins were building the exact same lethality builds where both were rolling from first item just that assassins won early because of their easy mobility and adcs didnt build any attack speed or defense until 4th item if at all. Adc 2k17 was adcs exactly like they are now except they had one class of champions that could possibly kill them being assassins

Death by GlamourSep 11, 20172 votes

So his sustain is gone or is it shifted elsewhere?

He will need some base attack speed buffs if this goes through

AhristocatsSep 11, 20172 votes

his attack speed got moved into E his W passive is now his passive his old passive got removed i hope he gets damage compensation for this

overall he will be a diver that cc people aka j4, and never kill adcs because of damage delay while protecting marksmen with cc and be immortal from enemies marksmen thanks to his ult

great rework xd

PennsSep 11, 20172 votes

i hope he gets damage compensation for this

he got a new spell for it and whatever that ult zone is tho xd

Death by GlamourSep 11, 20171 votes

Do you have a link to all this, not that I don't believe you.

Well I wonder wtf they are going to do to udyr and voli

AhristocatsSep 11, 20171 votes

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/tMx1eY6r-xin-zhao-gameplay-update-to-the-arena

Death by GlamourSep 11, 20171 votes

So...

A weird bastardisation of a tank and bruiser. This is going to be interesting.

Critmaster GarenSep 11, 20172 votes

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So...

A weird bastardisation of a tank and bruiser. This is going to be interesting.

nothing about this ability screams "tank" yet.

so far its just a rengar q with a slow attached.

Death by GlamourSep 11, 20171 votes

The amount of cc he has screams tank

Critmaster GarenSep 11, 20172 votes

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The amount of cc he has screams tank

saw the full kit.

nope. still a diver. his w has the slow, is ult knockback is still the same.

thats less cc than Camille who has a similar ult of isolating a target, and knocking every enemy away from it.

as far as i can see, he doesnt have the knockup anymore, so that actually makes less cc than before the rework.

right now on live, he has the knockup on his q, the aoe slow on his e, and the knockback on his ult.

TormentulaSep 11, 20171 votes

He still has his knock up, they literally didn't touch his Q.

Critmaster GarenSep 11, 20171 votes

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He still has his knock up, they literally didn't touch his Q.

oh, i didnt even notice that. lol, never mind.

though if i understand this correctly, they moved the attack speed buff from his w to his e, and the slow from his e to his new w.

could very well be wrong on that though.

Death by GlamourSep 11, 20173 votes

Sorry English isn't my native language but I saw no changes to his Q nor did I see that the removed the slow from his e

LordGeovanniSep 12, 20171 votes

the fact that he doesnt have invisibility or invunrability screams tank just like every other melee ad fighter that doesnt have invisibility or invunrability. they either build full tank and item 3748 or they arent played at all.

Mens Hair ClubSep 11, 20172 votes

also can they PLEASE stop throwing giant slows on every spell?

he's got a dash that slows and a knockup and a knockback, he's going to have CC on every spell

KaìjuSep 11, 20171 votes

Did they just announce his rework? I was at work and just got out, what happened?

I'm dumb

DariusDemiurgeSep 11, 20171 votes

Gross. I just played sej in Aram this weekend after months away from league. I hated her w vs all the dashes and cc. Thankfully her passive was so dumb it didn't matter.

Oh wow a slow. Should be a quarter second suppression if the second part is landed. :3c