Tell me this Riot. Did CertainlyT make Kindred?

SnugglePuggle94·Sep 16, 2015·2 votes·1,421 views

This new champ's kit SMELLS like CertainlyT.

Dash. Slow. 3 hit trigger spell. %HP damage An AOE, Tryndamere x Soraka ult that trolls the enemy team-we already have a Trynd ult, Soraka ult, Bard ult. We don't need them PUT TOGETHER. True damage? I didn't see any but the way the juggernauts were done I thought there would be.

I'm quite surprised there isn't more like a shield, AOE ult nuke that heals, stun, slow, (ahem EKKO). It still smells like CertainlyT has put some of his highly unpopular work into this.

Kindred, an ADC jungler. What the fuck is this atrocity? Like really, ADCs aren't meant for the jungle. The only viable one I have seen is Twitch. The others have never done well.

Riot, what are you doing, seriously? Stop making weird champs and putting them where THEY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE.

Thank you.

29 Comments

AtheosisXSep 16, 20156 votes

CertainlyT's design style is the way Riot seems to want all their champ designers to go. Just look at Azir and Ekko. That said, your "ADC's aren't meant for the jungle" take is a joke. The rigidity of roles in the meta is one of the worst things about LoL, so please kindly shut up.

SnugglePuggle94Sep 16, 20151 votes

Telling me to shut up. Rude and reporting. CertainlyT's champions are all atrocities.

AtheosisXSep 16, 20154 votes

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Telling me to shut up. Rude and reporting. CertainlyT's champions are all atrocities.

Rofl...

SnugglePuggle94Sep 16, 20151 votes

And laughing at me too. Such rude and mean people are everywhere on here.

SymbolicFearSep 16, 20152 votes

You are calling a guy rude when you are outright calling out a Riot Employee for doing his job (and doing it rather well) is rather hypocritical. You sir, are the epitome of rude and obnoxious. You are probably just another player who doesn't like change and is impatient for things to be smoothed out.

SnugglePuggle94Sep 16, 20151 votes

CertainlyT does not do his job well. I am not rude or obnoxious. I am saying what is on my mind and what is true.

SymbolicFearSep 16, 20151 votes

There is a contradiction. If something is "on your mind" then that's an opinion, not a fact. Just because his executions aren't perfect and needs time to be balanced out, doesn't mean he doesn't do his job well. In fact, what if his job is just to set up the rework itself, what if he has no control over the champion, nor the amount he can fix to satisfy the community? Just by stating "CertainlyT does not do his job well" just proves that you are in fact, being rude and obnoxious. Stating your opinion and just plain old being a dick are two completely different things. You are being the later in this situation as proven by the large quantity of downvotes you have received on this thread.

SnugglePuggle94Sep 16, 20151 votes

Nope. I am not. You calling me a dick is how you are being one.

SymbolicFearSep 16, 20151 votes

That's fine. At least I can acknowledge when I do it myself instead of saying "its true so its not rude"

jëwSep 16, 20155 votes

"We want innovation" "No not like that" I for one think it's pretty cool to have an ADC Jungler and Morde bot. It's diversity, which has been much the same for a while. Only <15 champs have 3 hit abilities. It's given a dash, oh wait yea only CertainlyT does that. ADCs should never get dashes! That's why we hate Kalista! What about Graves? "Lose"cian? It's not that big of a deal.

SnugglePuggle94Sep 16, 20151 votes

Yes it is. This diversity is screwing up League and so is Certainly T.

SymbolicFearSep 16, 20152 votes

I think CertainlyT has some incredible ideas, but with poor execution. With the introduction of ADC Mordekaiser, I was excited for new diversity, HOWEVER, he should changed at least 1 or 2 more champions to fit that role to counter Mordekaiser as its impossible to outplay a decent mordekaiser due to his natural tankyness and passive. I hope, that if CertainlyT did make Kindred, the launch goes through perfectly and without too much issue.

SnugglePuggle94Sep 16, 20152 votes

Morde has ruined the bot lane meta so much he is now permabanned. CertainlyT needs to stop switching things up and making things worse. His work on Yasuo, Trynd, Ekko, and more are all stupidly overloaded and some need to be deleted. His only good one he made was Zyra.

The overall concept of Kindred seems cool to me, but if he was an actual ADC and not a jungler I would be fine with it, as his kit doesn't have as much as Ekko's, just he has an insane ult that is actually a troll to the enemy.

SymbolicFearSep 16, 20151 votes

Yasuo takes skill, Tryndamere is dying out, Ekko is just not that good anymore, and Mordekaiser just doesn't have counter play yet. Like I said, it was poorly executed, but it IS a good idea to add more diversity to this game. What's ruining this game is the fact that Diversity is Dying. Its starting to seem as though its the same game on repeat. If you actually watched the gameplay of Kindred, he doesn't really have much damage as he has utility, he is more of a supporting champion that has mobility and lots of potential for outplays. Overstuffed kits aren't really that big of a deal considering almost every new champion and rework that comes along seems to overstuff the kits to the point of where its getting to be common place. Yes, Kindred's ult is a giant "F U" to the enemy, but the heal isn't a large heal like new Fiora, nor can it be used to troll your own team mates like bard or tahm kench. It seems as though Riot has realized its screwing up big time with all the troll champions and are taking precautions. Instead of immediately jumping on the Hate Train, just read up on it, watch some actual gameplay footage, and be in the middle between hate and hype. Just be glad there are new champions and new reworks and such, cause most games don't last almost 6 years like league has.

XonraSep 16, 20151 votes

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"We want innovation" "No not like that" I for one think it's pretty cool to have an ADC Jungler and Morde bot. It's diversity, which has been much the same for a while. Only <15 champs have 3 hit abilities. It's given a dash, oh wait yea only CertainlyT does that. ADCs should never get dashes! That's why we hate Kalista! What about Graves? "Lose"cian? It's not that big of a deal.

There were already adcs that were going jungle. Why do you think they nerfed Sated/Devourer

-Vayne-

they didn't introduce anything new, they just made it so the champion is glued to the jungle and doesn't work as well in a lane, that's all really. Just like they pretty much made Morde crap solo lane in comparison to how good he is in a duo now.

"So uh, you get stuff for killing jungle camps. You are a jungler. But an adc"

"Innovation!"

Yeeaaaaaah

SnugglePuggle94Sep 16, 20151 votes

I know they already have been in the jungle. We don't need a champ that is designed for it though. Just make her into a regular ADC.

LoLKiruSep 16, 20151 votes

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There were already adcs that were going jungle. Why do you think they nerfed Sated/Devourer

-Vayne-

they didn't introduce anything new, they just made it so the champion is glued to the jungle and doesn't work as well in a lane, that's all really. Just like they pretty much made Morde crap solo lane in comparison to how good he is in a duo now.

"So uh, you get stuff for killing jungle camps. You are a jungler. But an adc"

"Innovation!"

Yeeaaaaaah

Its not really that, its the WAY he phrased it that got on my nerves (bear in mind I was also half asleep at the time of writing that post; since I'd only been up for a few hours)

notably these two parts "Like really, ADCs aren't meant for the jungle." "Stop making weird champs and putting them where THEY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE."

He's suggesting that theres something inherently wrong with the concept of an ADC jungler or something like that, or that champions ONLY belong in specific roles (notably his second quote for this one; with the "putting them where they aren't supposed to be" thing)

DrCyanideSep 16, 20155 votes

No, it doesn't smell like CertainlyT. I can't find a single ability that does four things.

Passive:

Kill someone you planned to kill (and gave warning to), get some extra damage

Modified Ezreal E.

Passively gives a heal.
Actively is a damage steroid.
Actively reduces Q's Cooldown (effectively weaker version of what Ezreal's Q does for his kit)

Slows
After three hits does additional damage

Stalls death for all living units
Heals all living units after the duration

This kit is nowhere near CertainlyT's level of overloaded.

SnugglePuggle94Sep 16, 20151 votes

I didn't say his kit is overloaded. Just smells like one of those that CertainlyT has worked on, especially the ult.

DrCyanideSep 16, 20151 votes

Name one kit that CertainlyT's worked on where the champion had an ability that actively helped the enemy. You're saying he deviated from that to make this ult?

SpecterVonBarenSep 16, 20152 votes

It only smells like CertainlyT if the design makes you regret playing this game.

LoLKiruSep 16, 20153 votes

"Kindred, an ADC jungler. What the fuck is this atrocity? Like really, ADCs aren't meant for the jungle. The only viable one I have seen is Twitch. The others have never done well.

Riot, what are you doing, seriously? Stop making weird champs and putting them where THEY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE."

And then you basically ruined your post by spouting this nonsense. People cry to riot for something new and innovative, then the moment it happens people shout at them to stop

SnugglePuggle94Sep 16, 20152 votes

Wow. I did not ruin it. Kindred is not new and innovative. It's the same kind of thing that keeps going-a champ that has lots of flashy things in his kit along with a ton of mobility. The only thing that is new is that he is an ADC for the jungle meta and is not what League needs.

SymbolicFearSep 16, 20151 votes

I think Riot is finally pulling its head out its own ass and starting to work towards diversity. Their main theme this year for champion releases has been "possible troll" so you should have seen the ult coming. But overall, I am very impressed with Kindred and after watching gameplay, and very satisfied that he is not only balanced in pbe, but tons of fun while still being very good for a team composition.

XonraSep 16, 20151 votes

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"Kindred, an ADC jungler. What the fuck is this atrocity? Like really, ADCs aren't meant for the jungle. The only viable one I have seen is Twitch. The others have never done well.

Riot, what are you doing, seriously? Stop making weird champs and putting them where THEY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE."

And then you basically ruined your post by spouting this nonsense. People cry to riot for something new and innovative, then the moment it happens people shout at them to stop

Do you people not know what innovative is? Perhaps you just haven't seen this happen because most people refuse to try anything new already. ADC in the jungle is nothing new...this kit is just taking pieces of what are basically board memes and slapping them all into one kit.

I'm not saying it is a bad champ, because I enjoy playing it....but let's not pretend this is innovative in any way. I'm sorry, but it isn't. If you changed the passive, and they told everyone it was the new ADC, you wouldn't have known the difference, but since it is meant to jungle it is "new and innovative" lol

CatastropSep 16, 20153 votes

Congratulations, you successfully created a paradox in your own argument.

ErdamonSep 16, 20151 votes

Lacks billion passives and knockups to be a CertainlyT's design

Meep ManSep 16, 20151 votes

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This new champ's kit SMELLS like CertainlyT.

Dash. Slow. 3 hit trigger spell. %HP damage An AOE, Tryndamere x Soraka ult that trolls the enemy team-we already have a Trynd ult, Soraka ult, Bard ult. We don't need them PUT TOGETHER. True damage? I didn't see any but the way the juggernauts were done I thought there would be.

I'm quite surprised there isn't more like a shield, AOE ult nuke that heals, stun, slow, (ahem EKKO). It still smells like CertainlyT has put some of his highly unpopular work into this.

Kindred, an ADC jungler. What the fuck is this atrocity? Like really, ADCs aren't meant for the jungle. The only viable one I have seen is Twitch. The others have never done well.

Riot, what are you doing, seriously? Stop making weird champs and putting them where THEY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE.

Thank you.

No, RiotWrekz did. He is the creator of Braum.