Kog Maw's ult needs a better ground indication of its AoE

OyddAWqJ5r··53 votes·1,335 views

Alot of my teammates were getting gimped by it last game cuz they "thought they were not in range" of the explosion.

Looking at it now it does have a very small area highlighted then explodes into an area about 3 to 4 times larger than the indicator. I'm aware the indicator isn't the hit box but the hit box is so much drastically larger than the warning indicator that it can be really misleading.

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FantasySniper17 votes

Veigar's [W] Dark Matter seems to have the same issue.

Paquay4 votes

Yeah, that thing is the worst offender.

SpecterVonBaren1 votes

The upside to Veigar's W though is that unless he landed his E he's not going to hit you with it anyway so it doesn't really matter that it's bigger than it looks.

MangelinaJolie1 votes

Veigar W is so hard to notice in a frantic teamfight sometimes. Both the audio and visual cues get lost for something that hits so hard.

Joseraph4 votes

This. Ill just be minding my buisiness in a fight and BOOM, I'VE BEEN TURNED INTO NAGASAKI

SpecterVonBaren1 votes

Jesus Christ people it's a joke, what's with the downvote parade.

Fairyfleur1 votes

Then save jokes for Memes and Games...?

Or at least make it more obvious.

I Main Swain2 votes

same for lux ult

PimpStickNasus1 votes

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same for lux ult

Her q is way worse ult is only an angle thing it seems

Tyde DV8 votes

idk which skin it is, but there is a kogmaw skin that literally gives you a cross surrounded by a square to highlight it's hitbox. The other Kog'maw skins should be similar in this regard.

OyddAWqJ5r7 votes

Battlecast. I just want there to be like a big shadowy area where it's gonna hit atleast.

Dataless8 votes

upvote because Clarity is never a bad thing.

SpecterVonBaren2 votes

It is when you're in ARAM and your team consists of a Rumble, Vlad, Kennen, Zac and Yasuo. :p

Sohleks3 votes

They should undo the "it's to execute" design too. And retool his power with that.

It's absolutely stupid it's just to try to finish off fleeing targets. In what logical way does this ability communicate that thematically. It feels very one dimensional in play.

So many dumb changes over the years.

Is AP Kog'Maw being good for a few really worse than watering this game down til it dies. If every character in the game was one note ( and that's the direction it seems to be going)... it's just very boring...

Remove the E waveclear slow carpet as a tradeoff. I've seen AD Kog players complain about that ability not appealing to them. That should make his artillery build a lot more counter-playable if he doesn't have a lane wide slow and waveclear.

AP Kog'Maw was glorious with nothing else in the game like it. Unlike nearly all other artillery champs in the game he doesn't use a linear skillshot so he requires a different sort of accuracy and unlike them he had a very high tempo which was fun. Being mindful of your own positioning while targeting potentially a screen away potentially in multiple directions while watching your mana + stacks, well the game has nothing else like it and it'd be even harder without a carpet slow (especially since it was an easy portion of his burst if someone lethal was advancing on him). The other artillery in the game have "slow" conservative feeling playstyles. Those guys really just poke and fish for a cc to land to kill which is definitely different.

NineTailedMystic1 votes

Never put AP Kog back, dear lord.

ATastyDessert2 votes

It does seem to do that. Many of my teammates weren't able to avoid Kog's ult

GigaPube1 votes

3 to 4 times larger than the indicator

really dude....

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

OyddAWqJ5r1 votes

Aight leggo

Velzard of Koz8 votes

He's talking 4 times larges than the shadow area. It is. It doesn't mean it's big area.

inplane1 votes

Seems like a handful of things in this game needs better clarification.

RankOneUganda1 votes

so does fizz E.

Skorch1 votes

Everyones like Kog Ult or Veig W...

And im just sitting here like "Teemo shrooms range is the bane of my existence. Half the time i am like 'I WAS LIKE ACROSS THE LANE' and the other half i am like 'Oh thanks OS Teemo now i KNOW the range is BS'"

Jet Sett1 votes

Like Lux ult but more fun.

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