Why is Fizz the only Assassin that does not require his ultimate to assassinate squishy targets?

Nausicäa ··5 votes·1,154 views

Whats more, why does his ult have 450 base damage and 100% scaling given the above?

Whats more, why does his ultimate have not one but two separate forms of CC given the fact he has some of the best mobility in the game?

Time to remove some excess power on a bloated kit.

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Kuroi864 votes

Kha'Zix, Lee Sin, Pantheon, Poppy, Rengar, Riven, Twitch, Vayne, Xin Zhao.

None require their ult to kill.

Assassins have damage, Fizz is toxic but not op.

Nausicäa 2 votes

Kha'Zix, Lee Sin, Pantheon, Poppy, Rengar, Riven, Twitch, Vayne, Xin Zhao.

None require their ult to kill.

Assassins have damage, Fizz is toxic but not op.

Khazix requires his ult to kill anyone with a dash or cc,

Lee Twitch Riven Vayne Xin are nto realy assasinss

Poppy isnt killing anyone without her ult

Rengar inst killing anyone without his ult

Llanite3 votes

Q: 10 + 50-80 from AD + 0.6 AP W: 10 + 0.25 AP active + 25 + 0.3 AP passive E: 240 + 0.6AP

Total less than 400 + 2 AP.

I do more than that with Kat QWE. To your logic, Kat doesnt need her ult to kill.

Kuroi862 votes

All have the assassin tag on their classes, so yes, they all count. :P

Get any of these champs fed enough and they can melt a squishy without needing ult. Same for Fizz. (Look up some Fizz videos, he typically needs to do early trades to wear an enemy down before going all in for a kill, typical assassin fashion. It's not until he has a few items under his belt that he can melt anyone, again typical assassin.)

As I said, he's not op, just toxic.

Crimson5pheonix2 votes

Kha'Zix, Lee Sin, Pantheon, Poppy, Rengar, Riven, Twitch, Vayne, Xin Zhao.

None require their ult to kill.

Assassins have damage, Fizz is toxic but not op.

Fizz requires his ult to kill anyone with a dash or cc,

Lee Twitch Riven Vayne Xin are real assasinss

Fizz isnt killing anyone without her ult

Fizz inst killing anyone without his ult

Oh, look how easy it is to say something like this without backing it up at all! No wonder so many people do it...

But pray tell, what makes Fizz special compared to these other assassins? Why does he not need his ult while all of these champs need theirs (with qualifiers).

Igotlazy3 votes

Kha'zix can easily assassinate without his ult. Outside of the obvious run away/catch up it's mostly used in a duels for disorientating your opponent and waiting for your CDs. Not required for the kill usually. I all the ones you said aren't Assassin have "Assassin listed as their secondary champion role and do have Assassin-esque play styles. While Poppy's ult does provide a nice damage boost it isn't always needed. A good Wall Stun on a 40% health target can sometimes get the job done. Rengar can easily kill without his ult. Especially in lane.

The Mormonator2 votes

Nidalee...Elise...Both have executes and require no ult to assassinate someone. Point.

Crimson5pheonix2 votes

Nidalee...Elise...Both have executes and require no ult to assassinate someone. Point.

I was going to say them, but that felt like cheating...

Hayaishi3 votes

Because he's horribly designed.

RelentlessGrit3 votes

Because he's horribly designed.

That made me blow air out of my nose

excodar3 votes
  1. He cannot assassinate squishy targets without using R at full hp.
  2. He has one of the lowest assassin movement speeds of 335.
  3. His Ult Is hard to land. Shut the fuck up please.
Crimson5pheonix2 votes

Evelynn, Kha'Zix, Shaco, and Rango say hi.

Samflash31 votes

Lissandra, Lissan'Dra, Lissandro, and Lissango say hi.

I agree.

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JustMyBassCannon2 votes

Whats more, why does his ult have 450 base damage and 100% scaling given the above?

Whats more, why does his ultimate have not one but two separate forms of CC given the fact he has some of the best mobility in the game?

Time to remove some excess power on a bloated kit.

Do you even know what those words mean, or are you using them the same way you'd use "Toxic", "Anti-fun", "Overpowered" and "Binary"?

Hayaishi2 votes

Kha Zix doesnt need his ult to kill because he needs isolation damage.

Rengar needs his ult if he wants to get close otherwhise he just gets kited

Pantheon, Xin Zhao, Lee Sin are bruisers.

Riven isn't even an assassin.

Twitch is not an assassin, he's only tagged lile it because he has stealth, riot tagging system sucks and shouldn't be taken seriously.

Riot tags mean nothing, only assassins are Talon, Zed, Akali, Fizz, Leblanc, Ahri, Kha, Rengar.

He just needs DFG w and q to kill a squishy target.

Leblancs Boob2 votes

Evelynn

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