P ratio to 0.325 was 0.25 Q damage 45-105+0.2 was 45-165+0.4 W AP ratio to 0.6 was 0.4 W MS 30-70% was 10-70% +34 base HP and +2 base AD
Plus ALL of her last nerfs on PBE.
Jesus i'll be surprised if shes actually above 40% win rate next patch, its a shame they are completely olafing her shes so fun to play.
Riot want everyone to play mid azir or malz i guess, those are the only champs allowed to be broken for months and months.
Ahristocats4 votes"Expect 8.4 leaves her quite weak. Would rather risk overnerfing and fix after at this point though.""
-meddler
Rexxiee1 votes[{quoted}](name=Je suis Rubick,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=j9vYHB0d,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-02-18T02:56:11.436+0000)
"Expect 8.4 leaves her quite weak. Would rather risk overnerfing and fix after at this point though.""
-meddler
How come they cant do that to malz and azir?
Tired of those champs with extrermely flawed/broken kits to be allowed to be top tier for so long.
Ahristocats2 votesdon't ask me
apparently malz is fine right now, guess they forgot how cancer his ult and passive were
azir ryze galio are getting "big balance of power" to be way weaker in pro/high elo and better in low elo
Ok sure but why1 votesThey shouldn't let any champions be designed to literally do worse in high elo and better in low elo
that's actually horrible
321501 votesAnd then there is yi
Diamond2Kappa2 votesEasy, because the casual community doesnt complain about them hehe
Anonagon1 votesCitations needed, because this stuff isn't on surrender@20. She does have a lot of changes on PBE posted there but literally none of them are what you posted. Is this from a Twitter post or something, or are you just making up bullshit?
As for the nerfs that actually are there:
Paddle Star (Q) - Paddle Star no longer applies More Sparkles' damage to enemies past the first hit.
Spell Thief (W) - Minions can no longer drop Teleport.
Sleepy Trouble Bubble (E)
Honestly none of these address her as a problem. She will remain a powerful pick as long as she has the ridiculous burst potential she currently does. She won't be Olaf'd after these changes, but they're setting her up to be, because that stupid burst will be all she has left, and when they finally address it she'll be garbage. They need to stop beating around the bush with situations like these.
Rexxiee1 votesCitations needed, because this stuff isn't on surrender@20. She does have a lot of changes on PBE posted there but literally none of them are what you posted. Is this from a Twitter post or something, or are you just making up bullshit?
As for the nerfs that actually are there:
- [Removed Effect] No longer notes "When an enemy champion falls asleep, Sleepy Trouble Bubble's cooldown is reduced by 10/15/20/25/30%."
- Removing Drowsy now prevents the affected target from sleep. This includes effects such as Cleanse, Mikeal's Crucible, or Quicksilver Sash, as well as champion CC removals such as Alistar ult.
Honestly none of these address her as a problem. She will remain a powerful pick as long as she has the ridiculous burst potential she currently does. She won't be Olaf'd after these changes, but they're setting her up to be, because that stupid burst will be all she has left, and when they finally address it she'll be garbage. They need to stop beating around the bush with situations like these.
Meddler posted those nerfs are coming in addition to the ones on pbe.
Anonagon1 votesOnce again, give me a damn link, because the only nerfs I saw Meddler post about were the ones I posted.
Anonagon1 votesThank you, thank you. People should know by now to link to their damn sources, especially if its from twitter.
Anatera1 votes0.25 seconds.
Malix Farwin1 votesAs a Zoe Main(prolly a bit too soon to say this but 200k+ mastery), i am okay with this. I'd rather they make her weak and i can play her then current version where its a toss up. We should honestly see where they land and if it means she is weak for a while that is fine considering how strong she has been.
Basically if you really enjoy playing her you still should but you you simply have to play better and maybe you will actually get to play her after the nerfs drop.
If i were to make a minor complaint its that they nerfed the scaling on Q on top of the Base Damage where the clear issue was the Base damage is simply too high. I still think she should burst if she gets ahead or builds a ton of AP like other Burst Mages but Live she doesn't have to build that much AP because the Base Values are so high.
Salron1 votesP ratio to 0.325 was 0.25 W AP ratio to 0.6 was 0.4 W MS 30-70% was 10-70% +34 base HP and +2 base AD
These are all buffs ??
Rexxiee1 votes[{quoted}](name=Face The Win,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=j9vYHB0d,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-02-18T10:16:44.236+0000)
W AP ratio to 0.6 was 0.4 W MS 30-70% was 10-70% +34 base HP and +2 base AD
These are all buffs ??
With a over 20% damage reduction on her Q damage...
Of course its a gigant net nerf.
Salron1 votesSo then write it out properly?
Your post heavily implies that everything you listed is a nerf to anyone with normal reading comprehension
Beacon Academy1 votesIts not like Malzahar asked to be reworked ;_;
Jinzo Torrance1 votesAsk David Capurro and Rickle why they think an untouchable Flash Ult/Push Bot is better for the game than an immobile, 0 defense mechanism, high CD, mana gated mage who can't get CDR easily.