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Can you nerf Kayle Now?

Neriticc··13 votes·3,718 views

People need to stop saying she has a weak early game. She doesn't. After she gets level 6 you cannot lane against her anymore as she wins with free waveclear and poke.

She pokes you over and over again while healing up all damage you deal to her with Corruption Pot and W spam. You can't run away from her because for some fucking reason she gets bonus movement speed on her 5 stacks.

You can camp and kill this fucking failed rework champion all game but as soon as she is level 11, you have no more fucking chance to beat her. At level 16, you just FF because the game is lost 100%. I haven't ever seen a fucking champion that can int the entire game and still win because she reached a certain level. Even Vayne doesn't do this shit.

I've played early game champions and late game champions and I cannot beat her in lane anymore after level 6. After Kayle level 6 the lane is lost for us.

Remove her bonus movement speed towards champions. She should not get bonus attack speed until level 11. Make her level 16 spike so she still has to stack up 5 auto attacks and change the true damage to 15% magic penetration on hit.

14 Comments

Rax Reformed4 votes

"I went 1/8 against one as graves top. She must be OP!"

Malfectious3 votes

I had some sucsess with Sion against her. I just wore her out, never let her get any farm...and would gladly trade deaths to keep her out of lane early. There really wasn't much she could do...by the time Kayle made it to level 11 it was too late.

Vulkus I3 votes

https://u.gg/lol/champions/kayle/build/ Statistics prove she's broken lol

ban ryze3 votes

56% wr no counterplay

ADC Yuumi2 votes

Who are you playing toplane? If you make her waste her ult, you and a jungler can easily dive her.

The only problem I can see with what you're saying is that she's hugging tower a lot and she goes in if you fail a dive.

Her late game is supposed to be unbalanced because of how bad her early is.

Deprestus4 votes

Her late game is supposed to be unbalanced because of how bad her early is.

Thats literally the dumbest thing I have ever heard. So someone should just win because they picked a Champion and managed to survive a little? Sure sounds absolutely fun to play against.

ADC Yuumi1 votes

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Thats literally the dumbest thing I have ever heard. So someone should just win because they picked a Champion and managed to survive a little? Sure sounds absolutely fun to play against.

A little...? She's with Azir for horrible laning and bad ganks. If you dominate her in lane, a jungler wouldn't touch that lane with a 7 km stick. She can't spike like Vayne with an item or two and she suffers a ton from her lack of true lockdown / mobility against other toplaners / junglers.

There are very niche situations where a Kayle lane is unwinnable. That's if you keep trying to dive on her if she has her ult up, or her premade jungler is waiting for you to bait yourself into her.

An unbalanced late game is just what a "Super Minion until level 16" needs. Again, it's really hard for me to see what problem you have with her.

Talon has a fantastic early game, anyone skilled with him can keep him as a decent skirmisher throughout the very late game. ADCs usually spike in power with two items and around level 6 - 10. Late game hyper carries like Azir, Pyke and now Kayle; need around 4 items and level 12 - 16 before they start bringing in the hurt.

Not all champions scale the same way, and because of that; not all of them have a balanced power, fed or not; a support Brand can kill an Azir at level 12 going 14 / 0 / 2. The same way a Yasuo going 0/12/0 against a Riven can jump back from it and win the game.

EnigmaticMachine1 votes

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Who are you playing toplane? If you make her waste her ult, you and a jungler can easily dive her.

The only problem I can see with what you're saying is that she's hugging tower a lot and she goes in if you fail a dive.

Her late game is supposed to be unbalanced because of how bad her early is.

Once she buys rageblade and GA its over thats a fact

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

All this because you chose Graves top & still sucked at it.

Moonscourge2 votes

Maybe just stop playing poorly and kill her 5 times before she even reaches level 6. Her early is among the weakest of the entire game. Her mana costs are high, she has 0 AoE and long cooldowns. If you get poked by her you're garbage. Her Q doesn't even really go through minions. It stops on first target hit and slightly extends beyond that. Her E is a normal auto attack and she has ONE.. impossible to poke you with. Anything outranges that.

Gyn Gitaxis2 votes

nasus does nothing, cho does nothing, vlad dose nothing, even jax gets fucked on by her she is fundamentally broken. "het lets make a champ where you just win after she hits lvl 16...great idea!" dumb asses

The last Rumble1 votes

Nerf it, fucking sick of it

TheLivingFire1 votes

I destroyed a Kyle with Electocute Jayce, by the time she started doing anything I was 70 farm and 6 kills ahead.

Cárnival1 votes

Riot will never need this champion they are to busy making skins for money plus they don't care about what the community is saying about the game so all these boards are waste of time

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