Tryndamere is very fun to play against.

Neriticc··48 votes·15,855 views

I love how he wins the lane using Conqueror + Crit RNG. I love how he can use ultimate while hard CC'ed. I love that he can split push all game and nobody on my team and contest him back. I love that he can also team fight. I love that he gets free AD and lowers our teams AD.

Good job Riot. Good job indeed.

I'm glad that this toxic, unfun, stat-check game design still exists in this game.

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SexualNuts18 votes

Tryndamere is a very simple champion and there's a hell of a lot of outplay potential, especially in lane.

The guy literally has to continuously smack minions to become even slightly useful with a full rage bar and stacked conqueror. Without this, he hits as hard as a fluffy pillow. That is where you deny him and that is where you don't let him even enter the game.

And even if you somehow let him get fed, he can still get outduelled late game by some champions if you're that worried about him. Jax Nasus Fiora

Besides, he has so many counter picks in lane that he should not even reach the stage where he becomes god-like. Have you tried picking Tryn into the likes of Pantheon Teemo Jayce Kennen Vladimir Darius etc? It's not pretty.

Of course this champion is scary in the right circumstances. That's his entire design and fantasy. There's a reason we don't see him at high elo and pro play - because he's so easy to deny and offers so little into a teamfight. I have fun playing against a Tryn player because they have to work so hard just to not get dumpstered.

Ocarina of Crime3 votes

He lost to Trynd as ghost Darius lmao

SociaI Justice1 votes

trynda actually has the advantage against darius and pantheon, for pantheon you can just start cloth armor and he will never kill you with your Q sustain and he can just straight up kill darius after 6.

Umio15 votes

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I love how he wins the lane using Conqueror + Crit RNG. I love how he can use ultimate while hard CC'ed. I love that he can split push all game and nobody on my team and contest him back. I love that he can also team fight. I love that he gets free AD and lowers our teams AD.

Good job Riot. Good job indeed.

I'm glad that this toxic, unfun, stat-check game design still exists in this game.

your champion pool must be extremely low to make complaint like this

WøOxer11 votes

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your champion pool must be extremely low to make complaint like this

So I must build champion pool just to win against trynd?

Umio17 votes

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So I must build champion pool just to win against trynd?

Well considering the concept of 'matchups' is fundamental to strategizing how you win your lane and play this game in general, yes

Otherwise, play with bots if you dont want to put any thought into how you play the game

WøOxer4 votes

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Well considering the concept of 'matchups' is fundamental to strategizing how you win your lane and play this game in general, yes

Otherwise, play with bots if you dont want to put any thought into how you play the game

Doesn't make sense.

Why I have to build champion pool because this champion is just ridiculously better than this or this.

If this champ has toxic game play actions must be taken against this champion not try to win with a pariticularly better champion.

Umio18 votes

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Doesn't make sense.

Why I have to build champion pool because this champion is just ridiculously better than this or this.

If this champ has toxic game play actions must be taken against this champion not try to win with a pariticularly better champion.

lol

Why are you even playing this game?

WøOxer3 votes

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lol

Why are you even playing this game?

Lol do you even know how the champions works or how the game works?

Bârd10 votes

Considering you're complaining about a champion as easy to counter as Trynd as being "too hard to counter"... I don't think the other guys is the one who doesn't get it.

Volocaust2 votes

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Well considering the concept of 'matchups' is fundamental to strategizing how you win your lane and play this game in general, yes

Otherwise, play with bots if you dont want to put any thought into how you play the game

ur silver 4 maybe u should not give advice about fundemental strategy and putting though into the game.

MadNoff9 votes

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So I must build champion pool just to win against trynd?

That's pretty much common sense. Counter-picking is a thing in LOL. If your current pool doesn't have a champ which can respond to a Trynd pick, then expand your pool.

I illustrate1 votes

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That's pretty much common sense. Counter-picking is a thing in LOL. If your current pool doesn't have a champ which can respond to a Trynd pick, then expand your pool.

counter picking IS a thing, but a balanced champion should never REQUIRE a counter pick. any champion should be able to win against another (regarding champions of the same lane category in a 1v1 situation)

AlienPrimate4 votes

Are you really going to try telling me that a Malphite should be able to beat a Darius in a 1v1? Malphite is weak early and has a strong team fight while Darius is strong early while being useless in team fights unless fed. It would be a balance issue if Malphite could 1v1 Darius.

BashTheFash1 votes

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counter picking IS a thing, but a balanced champion should never REQUIRE a counter pick. any champion should be able to win against another (regarding champions of the same lane category in a 1v1 situation)

This is riddiculous statement. You have champions with various power spikes, some are late game oriented, some are early game oriented. It would be riddiculous if Vayne could match Lucian in lane. To say that a balanced champion should never require a counterpick is riddiculous too. You have no idea about top lane at all. This is a lane that has the hardest counters, that can make your life literally miserable.

SilentBomber2 votes

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your champion pool must be extremely low to make complaint like this

It's not about having a low champion's pool or whatever.Riot keeps releasing new champions and ignores the outdated/unhealthy ones.

SociaI Justice15 votes

i too used to complain about trynda 4 years ago, but now? when all this aids shit is in the game? trynda is what you complain about?

The Spicy Crit14 votes

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HungryAngry2SPP3 votes

inb4 ban

Heh, just from the name I could know you're a Trynda main.

RightClick McGee2 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Spicy Crit,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BUsKMJGa,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2018-11-15T15:05:40.509+0000)

Another silver player complain wave. Tryndamere has ~47% winrate, being 43rd.

Proof: http://na.op.gg/champion/tryndamere/statistics/top

If you somehow manage not to die to Tryndamere until his level 6, you will play the 'tower hugger' style, letting him farm4free and then he's gonna dive you over and over again.

STOP CRYING AND TRY TO IMPROVE YOUR GAMEPLAY. TRYNDAMERE IS MECHANICALLY WISE FOR CHIMPS, BUT YOU GOTTA HAVE A BIT OF BRAIN AND MACRO KNOWLEDGE TO PLAY HIM.

This

Echo3s2 votes

I agree with this. Trynd is pretty well balanced imo, he has alot of counters and I find it pretty fair to lane against him. There are way bigger problems to deal with, Trynd isn't really an issue compared to champs like Jax or Irelia.

WøOxer10 votes

You missed that love when his ap ratios got buffed, I HAD SO MUCH FUN against him.

1 Q full hp, 1 E melts all my HP, builds AS items scaled with AP, BUM AUTO ATTACKS 2 shots me, DEM FUN CHAMP.

Neriticc15 votes

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You missed that love when his ap ratios got buffed, I HAD SO MUCH FUN against him.

1 Q full hp, 1 E melts all my HP, builds AS items scaled with AP, BUM AUTO ATTACKS 2 shots me, DEM FUN CHAMP.

Just the fact Tryndamere could build AP and still one shot shows there is a problem with this champ.

Umio10 votes

Akali Illaoi Heimerdinger Jax Jayce Kennen Ornn Rammus Teemo

BigBrotherAniki10 votes

weekly Trynda crybaby post You guys are getting paid for this?

R35URR3C710N5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Rowboat Girlyman,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BUsKMJGa,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2018-11-15T15:29:20.755+0000)

weekly Trynda crybaby post You guys are getting paid for this?

You see the irony of coming in here and complaining about that, right?

Knightgum5 votes

Wouldnt call it ironic since he isnt the one making this posts on the boards weekly

R35URR3C710N8 votes

A lot of people are misconstruing the point of this thread.

Regardless of how fed he is, how big of a champion pool you have, or how skilled you are. The point the OP made still stands: Tryndamere is unfun to play against. (and, in my opinion, not all that fun to play as.)

He really is just a ball of stats and RNG with very little skill expression or outplay potential for either player, and his primary usage nowadays is to sit in lane and perma push.

OP? No. Unfun? Yes.

Elodin7856 votes

Very little skill expression? He does better in that regard than most classic adcs, just by virtue of needing to be in your face to do damage. His entire resource system is unique and promotes interaction. He has very clear windows of power... and so on and so forth.

Trynd is mechanically simple, and could probably use a W tweak, but he's fundamentally pretty reasonable.

R35URR3C710N4 votes

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Very little skill expression? He does better in that regard than most classic adcs, just by virtue of needing to be in your face to do damage. His entire resource system is unique and promotes interaction. He has very clear windows of power... and so on and so forth.

Trynd is mechanically simple, and could probably use a W tweak, but he's fundamentally pretty reasonable.

Managing his resource bar is not a matter of skill, in my opinion, as it stacks from doing actions fundamental to the foundation of leagues gameplay (last hitting) that every single champion, outside of the support role in some cases, universally has to do in order to stay relevant in game. Yes, he has a modicum of skill involved (in-combat timer to avoid resource drain), but nothing that most champions don't have to be aware of anyways (such as anyone running conquerer or grasp).

His CD management is his R, and his E (which has built-in cdr reduction for right clicking).

Other aspects of his gameplay that allow for skill expression, are, again, pretty much universally needed on all champions, such as when to engage/disengage, how to farm safely, pressuring lane, etc etc and are not inherent to him alone.

The Spicy Crit2 votes

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Managing his resource bar is not a matter of skill, in my opinion, as it stacks from doing actions fundamental to the foundation of leagues gameplay (last hitting) that every single champion, outside of the support role in some cases, universally has to do in order to stay relevant in game. Yes, he has a modicum of skill involved (in-combat timer to avoid resource drain), but nothing that most champions don't have to be aware of anyways (such as anyone running conquerer or grasp).

His CD management is his R, and his E (which has built-in cdr reduction for right clicking).

Other aspects of his gameplay that allow for skill expression, are, again, pretty much universally needed on all champions, such as when to engage/disengage, how to farm safely, pressuring lane, etc etc and are not inherent to him alone.

You're so wrong mate. Managing his resource bar is literally how you win your lane, and later the game. If you keep healing with your Q whenever you have 20% fury you will surely lose that lane. If you don't heal ever you're doomed. Sounds easy, but trust me, takes a while to get used to. Critting does reduce E cd. But have in mind that Tryndamere is a melee champion..

Kubsar Wannabe8 votes

Oh no , they are complaining about under 50% wr champ again , how about getting better at the game instead of blaming champ that doesn't exist in Pro Play (challenger level at least) bcs he is soo easy to counter.

Salamencę2 votes

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Oh no , they are complaining about under 50% wr champ again , how about getting better at the game instead of blaming champ that doesn't exist in Pro Play (challenger level at least) bcs he is soo easy to counter.

Name checks out

Kubsar Wannabe1 votes

Being Sarcastic is fun ^^.

Bjørnetjenesten7 votes

The funny (and sad) thing is going vs. shit like Tryndamere is still 100x more fun than Akali Irelia Evelynn Leblanc

MorgManBasher7 votes

Try playing him once and see how much fun you have

Being useless in team fights. Being perma CCed till your ult runs out while being useless. Watching your team lose all around the map knowing you can't team fight, only split and hoping it's enough.

I don't main Tryn, actually a support main but I've played him a lot in the past, he's not as brain dead and "ez win" as low elo likes to make him sound. He actually gets his ass beat by most top laners early game.

Want to shit on Tryn? Go burst characters that force out his ult early and then can just walk awayw or champs that perma CC him.

Champs strong against tryn Teemo Do I need to even explain this one? Yasuo Shits on Tryn early game, tryn has to play insanely safe till about mid game unless yasuo messes up Shen Very strong against Tryn due to his w, also burst is a decent lane bully early game and can make plays on the rest of the map to support his team. Akali Burst down tryn, force ult, then shroud. Has always been a big counter to tryn even before rework. Darius Have to win early, but darius wins this lane. Even when getting outscaled, darius can kite out Tryn thanks to his e. Riven Welcome to real early game cheese. Die once to her and be ready to want to kill yourself. Jax Winnable on either side but obviously favors Jax. Tryn can cheese Jax early, but Jax wins mid/late game. Fiora Skill matchup Poppy Hammer him in the face and knock his ass on the ground when he tries to spin on you. TahmKench Surprisingly good against tryn, bursts/pokes hard while being super tanky. Can eat Tryn during his ult and stun him over and over. Lissandra I don't think this is shocking to anyone, but Tryn has troubles in this lane for obvious reasons Ryze Ryze lane bullies tryn hard, tryn has to do his best to outsustain Ryze's mana pool Pantheon Similiar to Ryze, you must out sustain Panth's mana pool Kennen Tryn is going to have cancer before the end of the laning phase from how much you are stunning him. Jayce Full combo Tryn, proc phase rush, walk away. Repeat. Or just keep shotting him in the face. You can go aery for more poke but I 100% recommend phase rush against Tryn for the slow reduction and speed up so you can walk away whenever you need to.

HommeGoujon5 votes

I find him easy to play against... but okay.

Hochelaga5 votes

What ppl don't understand is whenever they make these statements, chances are that the ennemy is fed to hell and there is no way you can solo that champ.

I could be comparing your post to all fed assassins on how they 1 shot you in a matter of a second I could be comparing your post to all fed bruisers and tanks that just won't die I could be comparing you post to all fed mages that removes 80% of your health with a single spell

ANY FED CHAMPION is not fun to play against, some more than others.

Ralanr5 votes

I love how I can eat him as Tahm Kench and keep him in my belly for most of his ult.

“Now you’re gonna take a time out in my belly til you calm down. Ya hear?”

NumberOneBaller4 votes

Tryndamere is one of those champions which shouldn't exist.

Fnatic ComeShot3 votes

He is either retardly OP or utterly useless. He needs a little rewoirk

Xhaiden3 votes

I don't know about others, but for me... the worst thing about playing top lane - is getting the 1st pick in champ select. Top lance is usually the most affected by counter-play. That being said - if the enemy's 1st pick and picks Tryndamere - he'll either hug the turret for the 1st part of the game crying for jg to babysit him - or he'll feed hard vs a champ like Teemo. That game should be quite easy and relaxing even for an average Teemo vs a decent Tryndamere. Unless the jungle babysits him.

Fear the Kayn2 votes

I love playing against Tryn. He ults? Lol k let me just hide inside of him for the entire duration of his ult.

Kayn feelsgoodman

feintfiend2 votes

Tryndamere is 100x less cancerous than shit like Jax Irelia Akali Kennen Teemo Viktor Tryndamere is probably the most susceptable champ in the game to kiting and CC because he whole gameplay revolves arounnd constantly autoing you while low health. He's not like MasterYi who can avoid the CC and is extremely bullshit because he can avoid his only "counterplay"

Guzergus2 votes

he can also team fight.

No, he fucking cannot. The rest of your post is equally wrong and biased. Trynda is a non-existent hero at high mmr except for one-tricks. Neither does he work at pro level.

Ricardo Panicci2 votes

As a Tryndamere main, I have to agree that yes,he is very frustrating to play against due to his toxic and stat-check-ish kit but he can be stomped just as hard,If you don't let him stack fury he is going to be next to useless since he needs fury to crit and heal.He has some bad matchups likePantheon Gnar Darius Malphite Nasus and Akali demolishes him so hard It's not even funny.If these champs shut him down in lane he will have a hard time coming back and will be dead weight for his team because of his mediocre teamfighting.Always take CC heavy team comp and he will be useless if he gets CC'ed during his ult.The best thing riot could do with him is a vgu rework since his kit is heavily outdated.[slayer-jinx-catface]

Nami Want Salami2 votes

Playing against tryndamere is pretty much a free lane for you imo

JeaneGreene2 votes

Play teemo and make him wanna kill himself

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