Jungler gold is insane first 3 minutes

Nhika·Aug 31, 2019·1 votes·1,399 views

Just had a leaver in my game, and noticed that both junglers are at 1.1k gold at 3 minutes

Initial 500 gold start, then 3 minutes poof they are at 500-600+ gold earned.

10 Comments

PhearBunnyAug 31, 20195 votes

they also have to waste gold on a bunch of useless jungle pieces, while you get to start buying useful things right out the gate.

IllabetheAug 31, 20191 votes

No they don't?

Laners: Doran's you have to sell at cut value. Jungler: Jungle equivalent of a finished item with much more utility, and in some cases better mods than the items they are based on (Cinderhulk vs Sunfire) for about 500g LESS. They also enhance Smite for combat

I'm saying this as a jungler; Jungling is cheaper.

The correct counterpoint: Pauses and irregularities in farmability, and late Scuttle Spawns. Lane CS is consistent. Jungle has serious pauses, and spawn patterns aren't the same for red/blue as other camps, so secondary clears are slower.

PhearBunnyAug 31, 20192 votes

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No they don't?

Laners: Doran's you have to sell at cut value. Jungler: Jungle equivalent of a finished item with much more utility, and in some cases better mods than the items they are based on (Cinderhulk vs Sunfire) for about 500g LESS. They also enhance Smite for combat

I'm saying this as a jungler; Jungling is cheaper.

The correct counterpoint: Pauses and irregularities in farmability, and late Scuttle Spawns. Lane CS is consistent. Jungle has serious pauses, and spawn patterns aren't the same for red/blue as other camps, so secondary clears are slower.

Yo when Machete and Talisman give combative stats, come back to me.

IllabetheAug 31, 20191 votes

They are only components of a finished item..... and they are key to draking and farming..... Mana regen on Talisman is massive..... If you started with Dorans, most junglers couldn't survive nor clear.

You should only be at Machete/Talisman the first 4 minutes of the game. Past that it builds into an item you KEEP. It is not something you SELL.

PhearBunnyAug 31, 20191 votes

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They are only components of a finished item..... and they are key to draking and farming..... Mana regen on Talisman is massive..... If you started with Dorans, most junglers couldn't survive nor clear.

You should only be at Machete/Talisman the first 4 minutes of the game. Past that it builds into an item you KEEP. It is not something you SELL.

[zombie-brand-facepalm] hunters machete>Dorans blade....Because you don't sell the Machete at 30mins+? K.

IllabetheAug 31, 20191 votes

That's like trying to say Sapphire and Ruby Crystals are crap items. Or Rejuv beads or item 1004 . All are worthless, yet components of finished items.

And Talisman offers 4-5 times the mana regen of a Faerie charm.

BeersteinAug 31, 20191 votes

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No they don't?

Laners: Doran's you have to sell at cut value. Jungler: Jungle equivalent of a finished item with much more utility, and in some cases better mods than the items they are based on (Cinderhulk vs Sunfire) for about 500g LESS. They also enhance Smite for combat

I'm saying this as a jungler; Jungling is cheaper.

The correct counterpoint: Pauses and irregularities in farmability, and late Scuttle Spawns. Lane CS is consistent. Jungle has serious pauses, and spawn patterns aren't the same for red/blue as other camps, so secondary clears are slower.

Cull.

IllabetheAug 31, 20191 votes

How many champs start Cull? Standard is support item or Doran's on some assassins a Long Sword.

WalkingInACircleAug 31, 20191 votes

Spawns earlier, gets leash.

SchenixAug 31, 20191 votes

And then consequently drop off a cliff later. The jungle items are good, because otherwise they have to balance a jungler like a laner, and then there would be no point. By the time 3 items hit on the rift, junglers begin to stagnate and struggle with gold, as well as having what is now a substandard item that was required for early game and jungling on most champions.