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The hypercrisy regarding Garen is RIDICULOUS.

R0ses R Red·11/30/2019, 8:05:25 PM·4 votes·1,051 views

Any time Riven is flexing a 50%+ WR in the lower elos, people begin CHANTING to nerf her because it means something is wrong. This is because Riven is a skill-intensive champion, thus it'd be odd for her to succeed at lower elos. Her exact opposite is Garen. While Riven's trading pattern become obscured by her animation-cancelling the higher you go, Garen's trading pattern becomes more blatant when viewed by skilled eyes. Riven becomes harder to handle, so Garen SHOULD become a piece of pie. This isn't the case.

** How come players that SHOULD be SMACKING this brute around often fail to do so? **

If Riven isn't allowed to have a 50% WR in low elo, Garen shouldn't be allowed to have a 50% WR in high elo. Yet here we are. Any time you complain about Garen, you're called a low elo scrub. Garen's WR in Plat is 53%, in Diamond 51%, and in Masters 52%. It is only, AND only in Challenger that Garen's WR plummets far beneath 50%.

The thing to note here is that, YES, he's balanced on paper in the higher elos, but Garen's WR represents more than BALANCE.

** Garen's WR reflects how much he can BRUTE FORCE, thus EVERY single percentage over 50% is proof that SKILLED play against Garen isn't rewarding. **

He's not like Annie, Malphite, or Mordekaiser. He doesn't have teamfight changing CC to warrant this WR. All of his power lies in his ability to brute force things, so why is this okay?

Must we ALL be CHALLENGER level players for our skill to be REWARDED against Garen?

8 Comments

Posui Gart11/30/2019, 9:52:49 PM4 votes

Riven is broken, and the only reason Riot isn't doing anything with that is because being "broken" is already a part of her identity and Riven's playerbase will react very negatively to any changes in this. No other champion is allowed to be this strong and uncounterable when mastered. In my opinion, she should get an Aatrox-level rework, with her unhealthy identity removed completely and everything else remade and rebalanced. Garen is a normal champion. In Challenger people who play against him are skilled, sure, but so are people who play as Garen, they too are more skilled. He isn't really that much of a "low elo only" anymore after all those changes he had. Both his W and E involve a bit of skill-test in their usage. Perhaps he is overbuffed by his new E, but to prove that you need more than just wr

Ragnaveil11/30/2019, 9:09:37 PM3 votes

Yet oddly enough, Riven got buffed for the group of Riven mains that are bad at her animation bugs, which in turn just becomes a good buff for the people good at her because its not an adjustment. Garen got reworked into a good champ finally and thats why he has a high winrate. Thats also why Aatrox was good (he was never really "broken" unless he had his revive, when that got removed he should have never gotten nerfed for Riot's own faults) If Garen's winrate is such a problem to you, ask Riot to fix toplane first, and fixing it doesnt mean give us a solo XP boost. It means fix every single champ and every single matchup, and get rid of champs to other lanes that dont belong there right now and shouldn't belong there (Ryze and Cassio)

NaughtyWord11/30/2019, 8:49:39 PM2 votes

hypercrisy

LOLWUT?