Sett W needs to be nerfed

R0ses R Red·1/23/2020, 5:58:37 AM·5 votes·2,094 views

It goes beyond this ability slapping like a brick. The way it synergizes with his kit destroys counterplay. The counterplay to juggernauts has always been along the lines of avoid them or poke them down until you can kill them, but Sett's W just throws that out the window. For starters, his W is relatively long-range and practically impossible to miss. What this means is that he probably pokes harder AND more reliably than you. His poke being so long range then makes avoiding him(or his damage in this case) incredibly difficult.

THEN add his passive(increases HP per sec as his health lowers) into the equation and the end result is that you also cannot out poke him. Sett wants you to all-in, so that's obviously not an option either. Imo, Sett leaves you with NO optimal recourse. The only way this can be changed is if either the hitbox or dmg of his W were to be gutted.

9 Comments

Chembaron Yamada1/23/2020, 9:15:19 AM5 votes

I don't know why you are downvoted, you actually have a point.

How his grit functions, you would think that the best way to deal with him would be to poke him down over time instead of bursting him, since he will weaponize your burst against yourself with his W.

But then he has a passive that lets him regen poke. And dodging his W can be really hard, since the hitbox is so wide. You can dodge the true damage part pretty well, since it is just in the middle. But avoiding the damage all together is really hard.

Troll Slaiyer1/23/2020, 7:38:58 PM1 votes

his W does very little dmg and is a waste to poke with (unless hes in a ranged matchup). 15sec cooldown on his most important ability... u have to move around a bit to not get hit by the true dmg everytime. stop just sitting there. like all juggernauts, he specializes in pounding noobs.

GFREEMEN1/23/2020, 8:07:35 PM1 votes

....... WALK AROUND HIM ffs its windup is so slow you can dash/flash and even walk out of it.

Exodus2471/23/2020, 8:50:31 PM1 votes

Just needs a bit of a dmg nerf, or even a small ratio nerf, and then its fine. maybe instead of 10% grit per 100 ad make it 5%, that way it still does dmg but doesnt just facefuck you.

Pika Fox1/24/2020, 1:02:56 AM1 votes

His W is on too high a CD for it to be used as poke. If he is poking with it, its doing no damage. He can only reliably use it for damage when he is low on HP due to stacking his grit requiring him to take damage. He physically cannot win a trade if hes only using W. Its just not mathematically possible, unless you do as little damage as is possible and wait until its off CD.

Hell, his W is physically designed to be useless into poke, as the time to retain his grit is so low, the damage you did 3 seconds ago isnt counted.