Like ADCs have crit. Assassins have lethality. AD bruisers have AD.
All AP champs whether battle mage, AP bruiser, assassin, support, tank, APC , they all use the same stat.... AP.
IDK, I feel like there is room for improvement here? It could be something that amplifies basic attack, AOE damage, or even cast animation speed.
Frosted Tips8 votesI don't necessarily think a new stat is needed. I personally would separate battle mages from AP bruisers. Battle mages can make use of most AP items right now, but AP bruisers legit have no items. AP bruisers specifically are missing penetration. They can't build 
without destroying any tankyness they have built. Also how AP works is a problem because unlike AD it scales multiplicitively because of 
. So if you don't build full AP it is substantially less effective.
Battle mages are fine but AP bruisers are suffering heavily. AP bruisers need alot of things they don't have. AP bruisers need AP, CDR. Health, and percentage penetration. Other stats they would like are AD so that when abilities are down they still do a little bit of damage, and attack speed, because alot have on-hit or like autoing.
Moody P1 votesdidn't realize void staff negated all your bought defense
Frosted Tips7 votesOk it is an exaggeration, but imagine building 
or 
on 
or 
and how much of a hinderemce that would be to your build.
Moody P1 votesi buy these routinely on illaoi and aatrox
the other 2 don't need it because they have innate armor reduction
Tomoe Gozen3 votesBlack Cleaver takes care of most bruisers' needs when it comes to armorpen. Ilaoi and Aatrox are poor choices for the LW item line since they don't have any tankiness ingrained into them, while the payoff from the stats it gives isn't great. Illaoi especially, since she's so vulnerable to disabling CCs.
The only thing i can justify here remotely is Mortal Reminder due to its GV passive but even that is better suited for a Marksman that can dish out consistent ranged damage (given the debuff is 1 seconds in duration) or purchased through the Morello by a mid laner. So both AD and AP champions have the anti-heal item property, bruisers just need to focus to have more staying power in the initiations.
Moody P1 votesyou can theory craft what you like. LW is great on illaoi when the situation calls for it
black cleaver takes care of most bruisers' needs when it comes to armor pen
doesn't play a single champion who buys BC lol
Tomoe Gozen1 votesI play Illaoi myself and i never once considered LW item line for her. Because i can't make a full damage build work and therefore, investing in this item in particular (while BC is the option for bruisers), is counterproductive for me.
Moody P1 voteswhere's your games on her mate?
LW is insanely good in the right games. You don't need a full damage build to make it work, you just need enough enemies to be tanky to see the difference it gives
I had to fight a triple tank comp about 2-3 weeks ago and after finishing this item I was 1v9 carrying until my Lulu finally figured out to be putting her buffs on me and not our filled ADC. Then it was 2v8 for a solid come back
Its likely more situational than I'm making it sound but it is a fantastic item to buy provided you know WHEN to buy it.
for reference I'm plat 2-3 with close to 60% win rate on her. A high diamond OCE one trick told me about the build and I haven't looked back since
Lux Is Mai Waifu6 votesthey should have better items, instead of a crutch passive like Vlad's
giannishannibal3 votesYour perpective is limited . They have a wide variety in their items that have more utility . AD bruisers have black clever well mages have liandry, rod of ages. Assasins have lethality well brand, zyra and less velkoz,malzahar are prime example of champions that stack lot more magic pen and void staff. ADC have crit stat vs all the ap items that build from lost idol that enchance shileds and healing you give to allies ( last year we had 
meta or have you not been playing that season), there is 
that gives AOE movespeed like sivir ult, tons of items that gives 10 or 20 % cdr, lot of mana and mana regen items ( item that helps with resource management), mages have banshee veil,zohnya, archangel stack that gives a massive shield apart from the mana and ap. Basic attack amplification well in that department we have Nashor tooth and Lich bane. Ludens is the single aoe damage item and rylais give a potentail AOE slow -see Viktor E with rylays. Cast animation items we dont have in general because they can become very easily exploitable from champions like varus,kog maw, mf, maybe ashe, definately udyr and riven( together with her animation canceling she may dish her damage even faster in capable hands) and yasuo ( his E had ap scaling for some reason). Overal what the AD champs get , AP champs have usually its counterpart. But Riot recently is touching the items for AD champs so they look kinda fresh plus the Stormrazor fiesta for free ad,att speed, movement and crit and neglenct the Ap itemization and look that they havent touch it for a while but still i think AP have more utility and variety of items to buy like all the AD. And all the ADC use AD cause 100% crit with 100 AD will crit 200 damage and that is vs 0 armor enemies.
BiasZebra2 votesLet's not forget that crit is essentially damage amplification, and exists.
Poop Johnson3 votesAnything a battle mage can use will be eaten by normal mages as well because battle mages are still mages. Also battle mage is a mess of a class like what do Tailyah, Ryze, Asol, and Swain have in common besides low range and high sustained damage?
Seer of Mind1 votesMages have more utility compared to AD Champs imo, 
Hextech items, ect. But I do agree that Battle-Mages are lacking in the itemization area. If they could scale off mana, hp or any other stat they would workout.
CIayman1 votesuhhhhhhhhhhh no
deadlychuck1 votesWho really needs a new stat to separate them from the other classes is AD assassins and burst heavy fighters.
Sire Hippington1 votesMany that would qualify as AP-bruiser scale well with AS, so they have a different stat to use, most AP-bruisers have good base rather than ratios and thus work better with pen and the amp from abyssal and liandrie's, and also there is one major group of stats that are important for bruiser and not so much for mages: DEF STATS.
The issue for AP bruiser is not that they lack 'other stats' that they need/want, the issue is that they still rely to much on AP to get proper values while haveing poor options for the other stats they need.
With the current PBE changes to ragebkade, Nashors is about the only remaining AS/AP item, and it sadly has alot power in the AP-ratio of the on-hit, so it also relys on getting more AP rather than building tanky.
Also, the AP-tank Options are not so great, Abyssal and RoA share a passive, Zhonyas is not that great for sustained combat patterns, There is no other AP-armor item, Banshies is also not the ideal thing for a beefy fighter, and asides from RoA, all the AP-hp items are pretty low key on the HP side.
Though the main issue is that both through Nashors and theit own kits, AP-bruisers rely to much on high-ish AP values to funktion so they can't really opt into pure tank items like most ADs can.
Also, is kinda a must buy later in the game, they lack a more tanky alternative while ADs have BC and Conqueror to deal with high resis later on.
Though mana scaleings might work, and maybe giveing 
adaptive damage, it would make 
items more viable for them.
JeaneGreene1 votesJust make an AP black cleaver...
I would buy it on 
every game (after I buy Rylais and protobelt first to make him an actual champion).
