I had the most fun experience in my life as top laner

ValiantKiller·Apr 12, 2019·5 votes·4,711 views

I was against on top side and as jungler who start his buff on top side. Ofcourse cause of this dumb crits early and he able to freeze wave while twitch legit sitting and camping me for first 4 waves, he win the lane easily cause i can't do anything about that. So the real question here is not how to counter that shit cause there no counter for that and Riot balance team don't care about that shit anyway, the real question should i quit the game cause there no hope for me?

26 Comments

Dr DogApr 12, 20192 votes

if you just camped under tower and didnt let them get anything out of it you could easily make twitch waste his time while your jg gets free objectives and free reign over bot and mid, the counterplay is there its just team reliant

ValiantKillerApr 12, 20192 votes

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if you just camped under tower and didnt let them get anything out of it you could easily make twitch waste his time while your jg gets free objectives and free reign over bot and mid, the counterplay is there its just team reliant

Sorry but my Shvy did want to build a full class cannon Attack speed build so she did nothing with it beside going in and dying for the enemy or my top laner

Dr DogApr 12, 20191 votes

some games just arent winnable really, dogshit team can definitely ruin matches

OrangeMarineApr 12, 20191 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dr Dog,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ixkfGmsu,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-12T20:02:21.279+0000)

if you just camped under tower and didnt let them get anything out of it you could easily make twitch waste his time while your jg gets free objectives and free reign over bot and mid, the counterplay is there its just team reliant

the counterplay is to not play the game. lmao

ValiantKillerApr 13, 20191 votes

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the counterplay is to not play the game. lmao

His logic is letting your team carry that mostly 1 of them are super bad.

Pandemic PunchApr 13, 20191 votes

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if you just camped under tower and didnt let them get anything out of it you could easily make twitch waste his time while your jg gets free objectives and free reign over bot and mid, the counterplay is there its just team reliant

In the VAST majority of games, this isn't true. You can't rely on your team to win 4v3 on the rest of the map no matter how much the enemy jungler camps you. Sitting under turret only increases the amount of time you will have to stay in lane later. Then your team will rage at you and wonder why you can't help in fights while you are about 70 CS behind.

You are nothing more than a cheerleader if you pick a champion that can't farm due to too many hard counter match ups.

mack9112Apr 12, 20191 votes

What champion did u play

ValiantKillerApr 12, 20191 votes

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What champion did u play

Yorick

mack9112Apr 13, 20191 votes

So it’s a split push war that you should outscale.

Ahri BakaApr 12, 20191 votes

Sorry but my Shvy did want to build a full class cannon Attack speed build so she did nothing with it beside going in and dying for the enemy or my top laner

It seems like players issue not a company issue If you wanna quit then go ahead tho

ValiantKillerApr 12, 20191 votes

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It seems like players issue not a company issue If you wanna quit then go ahead tho

Thank you for your answer

Ahri BakaApr 12, 20192 votes

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Thank you for your answer

Your welcome Not trying to act salty or something I'm actually serious , if you don't enjoy the game and always got the feeling of quitting , just simply quit

ValiantKillerApr 12, 20191 votes

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Your welcome Not trying to act salty or something I'm actually serious , if you don't enjoy the game and always got the feeling of quitting , just simply quit

Yah i know, thanks

AnotherFeederApr 13, 20191 votes

Hahaha, brings back memories. I had an account i got to p1 just playin all of rat irls champs in s7, and i can tell you, the only real counterplay to twitch jg is either uve got to play like a total bitch when he's not appeared on map, or youve got to be stomping lane so hard that if he ganks u can 1v2. If he gets reasonably ahead and you cant do one of these two things anymore then you cant lane. Ive legit picked people standing a few feet infront of their tower with flash up with twitch ult.

Its very kill dependent though, so just not fighting when he could be there is actually a huge counter to him as he sucks at farming his jg. There are good reasons he's a 47% win rate jungler. Its actually a very volatile pick.

ValiantKillerApr 13, 20191 votes

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Hahaha, brings back memories. I had an account i got to p1 just playin all of rat irls champs in s7, and i can tell you, the only real counterplay to twitch jg is either uve got to play like a total bitch when he's not appeared on map, or youve got to be stomping lane so hard that if he ganks u can 1v2. If he gets reasonably ahead and you cant do one of these two things anymore then you cant lane. Ive legit picked people standing a few feet infront of their tower with flash up with twitch ult.

Its very kill dependent though, so just not fighting when he could be there is actually a huge counter to him as he sucks at farming his jg. There are good reasons he's a 47% win rate jungler. Its actually a very volatile pick.

yah it cancer cheese that still able to scale

AnotherFeederApr 13, 20191 votes

Problem with it though, and the reason i dont like to play it anymore, is no matter how well youre doing you can always be one shot by most anyones kit. That makes you incapable of solo securing obnectives. And like i said if people arent playing aggro in lanes for u to get kills off of, it fks u pretty hard.

ValiantKillerApr 13, 20191 votes

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Problem with it though, and the reason i dont like to play it anymore, is no matter how well youre doing you can always be one shot by most anyones kit. That makes you incapable of solo securing obnectives. And like i said if people arent playing aggro in lanes for u to get kills off of, it fks u pretty hard.

Still if you snowball a strong late champions they will carry you later easily.

AnotherFeederApr 13, 20191 votes

Could be done more effectively by other champs that serve purposes towards that end later. Twitch jg takes the kills, cuz he needs that money to hyper carry. I can go nunu, his ganks are actually just as op, and camp a kayle, while giving her all the kills so she can become big and it doesnt effect me because that money just would have gone to being more tanky. Then come late game im an initator with strong cc, and a buff passive that makes kayle carry even harder. Twitch would struggle from having to play around another hyper carry, because only one of them got thr gold, there is no front liner or initator, and no cc. Plus nunu wouldnt fkd by a bad early, if twitch has a bad early, games typically just over.

ValiantKillerApr 13, 20191 votes

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Could be done more effectively by other champs that serve purposes towards that end later. Twitch jg takes the kills, cuz he needs that money to hyper carry. I can go nunu, his ganks are actually just as op, and camp a kayle, while giving her all the kills so she can become big and it doesnt effect me because that money just would have gone to being more tanky. Then come late game im an initator with strong cc, and a buff passive that makes kayle carry even harder. Twitch would struggle from having to play around another hyper carry, because only one of them got thr gold, there is no front liner or initator, and no cc. Plus nunu wouldnt fkd by a bad early, if twitch has a bad early, games typically just over.

Sir if it was nunu or any visible jungler it would be easier to ward around them and push wave back to you but twitch make you afraid to move a muscle special when he tried first try to gank and fail making the other top laner able to freeze lane for their advance.

AnotherFeederApr 13, 20191 votes

A good nunu can gank with 0 counterplay as long as the laner hes ganking for has the dmg. U can even come from lane and chase people down. Youve a speed up, followed by a knockup, followed by a slow, followed by a root. U do more damage than early game twitch, and buff the laner simply by hitting a champion.

ValiantKillerApr 13, 20191 votes

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A good nunu can gank with 0 counterplay as long as the laner hes ganking for has the dmg. U can even come from lane and chase people down. Youve a speed up, followed by a knockup, followed by a slow, followed by a root. U do more damage than early game twitch, and buff the laner simply by hitting a champion.

Still his visible on the wards, that what matter

AnotherFeederApr 13, 20191 votes

Lane ganks cant be warded against....

gdogwowApr 13, 20191 votes

This legit just happened to me except it was Kindred instead of Twitch.

It’s so irritating just sitting in lane knowing you can’t even move up to ward but it’s even worse when the rest of your teammates can’t win their lane even without enemy jungle presence influencing the game.

Top lane is fun imo but if the enemy jungler decides to focus top (for some reason) you’re screwed and basically hoping your bot and jg aren’t terrible.

ValiantKillerApr 13, 20191 votes

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This legit just happened to me except it was Kindred instead of Twitch.

It’s so irritating just sitting in lane knowing you can’t even move up to ward but it’s even worse when the rest of your teammates can’t win their lane even without enemy jungle presence influencing the game.

Top lane is fun imo but if the enemy jungler decides to focus top (for some reason) you’re screwed and basically hoping your bot and jg aren’t terrible.

Top lane not fun when Tryndamere have wave advance and kills advance , that what happen and that is cancer

y0r1ckApr 13, 20191 votes

Bro you're not winning that matchup in any circumstance. Yorick vs trynd you spread your ass and bite the pillow. In that matchup you can't walk out from under the tower anyways, so if you push you're ruined whether the jg camps or not. So it's actually good that twitch wasted his time.

The counterplay is you sit under your tower and waste twitch's time while your jg helps the rest of the map.

This is clearly just a thinly veiled rant because of a frustrating matchup. Take a break or rant on the rant board.

Or quit the game if you want. Multiple people have told you the counterplay.

ValiantKillerApr 13, 20191 votes

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Bro you're not winning that matchup in any circumstance. Yorick vs trynd you spread your ass and bite the pillow. In that matchup you can't walk out from under the tower anyways, so if you push you're ruined whether the jg camps or not. So it's actually good that twitch wasted his time.

The counterplay is you sit under your tower and waste twitch's time while your jg helps the rest of the map.

This is clearly just a thinly veiled rant because of a frustrating matchup. Take a break or rant on the rant board.

Or quit the game if you want. Multiple people have told you the counterplay.

Wish my jungler had brain, instead got to be smart kid and goes full glass cannon as shvyana