So why does lucian snowball harder than draven?

Woook3r··2 votes·591 views

Theres an entire 1% difference in win rate at 20 min, which is the reason I make this assertion. Draven has a blatantly unfair snowball passive that no one really likes. Hes not even the hardest snowballing adc. WTF?

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Slythion2 votes

My guess? Lucian is much more mobile and difficult to shut down, benefits from the changes to Essence Reaver + CDR loads better than Draven, and is able to trade better with his abilities.

Draven may have his passive, but Lucian has the meta.

weeaboomer1 votes

and is a better lane bully, strong mid, and scales well into late game.

Woook3r1 votes

Who? Lucian? His win rate is complete garbage after 20 min.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

because he has the highest pickrate in the game . if lucian pickrate was half of that i bet his winrate would be quite a bit higher. imo lucian needs nerfs. hes too strong

Unstoppable Monk1 votes

He also can hold when the support roams for solo experience, making his strong mid game even stronger with a fast level 11 while the other lanes get fed.

Edge of Daybreak1 votes

A 1% difference isnt that huge when one Requires way more mechanical skill to play. If anything it just shows that Draven may not be as rewarding as it should be but 1% isnt so huge that it is cause for alarm.

Woook3r1 votes

1% is huge. If you win an extra 1% of your games you will climb.

The average win rate is 50% obviously. Lucians win rate is about 54% after snowballing. Dravens is 53%. That means that lucian snowballs 33% more effectivly than draven.

You are just wrong. 1% is huge.

Edge of Daybreak1 votes

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1% is huge. If you win an extra 1% of your games you will climb.

The average win rate is 50% obviously. Lucians win rate is about 54% after snowballing. Dravens is 53%. That means that lucian snowballs 33% more effectivly than draven.

You are just wrong. 1% is huge.

How do you get 33% more effective with a 1% difference in winrate?

Woook3r1 votes

(54%-50%)-(53%-50%)/(54%-50%)

These numbers are lucians win rate at 20 min, average win rate at 20 min, and dravens win rate at 20 min, respectively.

Edge of Daybreak1 votes

Okay so how did you get to 33%? Even doing the math as you have it there it only shows a 1/4. I'm not an expert on things like this so I wouldnt know where to start with when it comes to stuff like this.

Woook3r1 votes

I'm sorry. The denominator should have been 3% not 4%. That would change the answer to 1/3 = .33 = 33%. Good question. I explained it wrong at first.

Edge of Daybreak2 votes

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I'm sorry. The denominator should have been 3% not 4%. That would change the answer to 1/3 = .33 = 33%. Good question. I explained it wrong at first.

K Now we in there. Got it. Thanks for explaining.

Woook3r1 votes

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