You overbuffing garen..

Giggling Granny··2 votes·496 views

Riot...what are you doing'? so far garen has got better healing from passive better restore health when take good poke 50% damage reduction TENACITY and now gets even more damage?

Riot i get that you want to make garen good but right now you make him like no possible to outsuntain him in lane and make him even more of a bully in top lane i dont care if it fall later if that was the case then nobody would cry about pantheon but hey guess what everyone cry about pantheon and pantheon faill harder than garen

So what the deal here? 40%? on his E "its only 2%" NO its 2% IN EACH RANK so its 10% increase in his overall damage from lvl 1-9

Riot back off with some many buffs

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Riot...what are you doing'? so far garen has got better healing from passive better restore health when take good poke 50% damage reduction TENACITY and now gets even more damage?

Riot i get that you want to make garen good but right now you make him like no possible to outsuntain him in lane and make him even more of a bully in top lane i dont care if it fall later if that was the case then nobody would cry about pantheon but hey guess what everyone cry about pantheon and pantheon faill harder than garen

So what the deal here? 40%? on his E "its only 2%" NO its 2% IN EACH RANK so its 10% increase in his overall damage from lvl 1-9

Riot back off with some many buffs

And he's one of the few champions who barely get touched up and is basically the 'lowest in ip cost tag[free if you did the promotion]' and most simplistic of 'top lane champions' period.

-He has no range/long-reach attacks like most tops have: Sion Jayce JarvanIV Swain Rumble Galio Gangplank Gnar Illaoi Kennen Kayle Irelia(because her R and 'gap closer' counts) Pantheon Darius (because we all know his 'q' is a very 'huge' range freakin AoE hitter). Fiora (because we all know her blooming Q is basically a semi'long reach poke) Yorick Riven (because stuns and gap closing out of the rear plus no mana bar and her R) Vladimir.

I mean, name 'one' champion that doesn't have a overpowered gimmick or does 'not' have long reach/instant gap closer/no mana bar or just plain insane cc chains besides Garen that actually work?

If Garen had no defensive measures and 'slow breaking measures' and cc to help with trading, he'd be jail bait to too many other champions in general. He's one of those champions who you should not hate because he is some nearly unkillable late game juggernaut, but you should thumbs up to him because that is how he should be, his power is front line engaging and not be some sissy poker and then all in soon as you ripped off 25%~50% of the target's health off with your poking. He's the champion who gets the fk in there and goes hail mary and he doesn't need things like bs innate armor pen (Looking at you Darius) or the ability to chain a execute multiple times that gets retarded ez because its true damage against his targets and he can raise the threshold with his stacks (again looking at you Darius).

What Garen does is he goes in there, cause alot of havoc and execute a priority target with his own R, staving off the initial dmg with his W and set it up for his team to wrap it up after he took the initial blows. If he had been given some poking measures, then more excuses would fly off of him being entirely broken with a long range 'poke', no mana cost and just a living mobile wall. His w passive caps off, his E requires him to stick on a target to get the armor shred to proc of and his R mark only works to shut down snowballers, so it won't be as effective against a squishie if they don't have the mark to give the big impact to guarantee the execute.

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Plus i give a big thumbs up to the W change for many reasons.

  1. Because it lasts less duration that means a 'good' garen player has to time it for the big damage impact more then just run in and proc it soon as they start E spinning to be pretty much immune to most of the damage thrown at him.

  2. Less duration gives more counter play to a enemy team so if a Garen times the W active improperly, the enemy team can back off long enough till its gone to lay waste into the Garen and not just throw all their abilities on cooldown while Garen's active reduces the damage.

  3. Less duration gives more reason for the power to be shifted to something more useful like extra damage reduction bonus so it lets Garen adopt a better juggernaut defensive personality then a troller like a MasterYi with rather 'ez' measures in mopping up enemies.

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