i'm serious, vlad or aatrox when they are viable they are just unfun. Tons of sustain making it the most unfun laning phase ever. manaless sustain just lead to frustration. ie: vlad/aatrox/rumble when spellvamp was a thing
Maple Crusader2 votesThere's a reason why Vlad is one of Riot's greatest mistakes. They should have reworked him by now.
Very Hard Engage1 voteshis kit is fine, he needs to be in the center of the group to do meaningful damage, you just need to target and focus him and not drag the fight out long enough for him to gain so much life back. hes also very slow moving with no way to get to you guys.
doublelift fg1 votesi don't care about how managing him in teamfight. I do care about how can i get fun when laning against him.
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i don't care about how managing him in teamfight. I do care about how can i get fun when laning against him.
thats when hes weakest, long CD's and low base damages, you can seriously punish him if he over extends. you just dont want to Q eachother and walk away, you want to straight up duel him and kill him.
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i don't care about how managing him in teamfight. I do care about how can i get fun when laning against him.
Dude, he has a pretty poor laning phase. If your not Bulling him, all ining him, ganking him, then you have screwed up how to play against him. His Q starts with a really long cooldown, and he doesn't spike until level 9. And people seem to forget to actually pick high harass champs against him (cause ooh Tank Meta)
Teemo has a higher burst than Vlad?
Vladimir is a sustain Damage mage. Not to the same extent as Cass, but he is sustain damage. Though Teemo only really has 2 spells for damage so I don't see how he's burst Anything. Teemo's really Gorilla tactics with his blind and shrooms.
buster kiton1 votesI think it's ok for champions to be based on healing, but I do agree that sustain in lane gets stupid especially with vlad and aatrox. Easiest way to make the laning phase more "healthy" when facing these champions could be reducing healing done when healing on minions.
FooDang1 votesVlad has been like this since forever. He's fine.
3TWarrior1 votesteemo and quinn can shut them both down, but i'm more worried about the aatrox than vlad
vlad has low range...if you get into aatrox's dash range, he gets free crowd control and decent damage
FooDang1 votesHow does Teemo shut down Vlad? Just asking because my Vlad drinks Teemo protien shakes to get buff for mid game.
SEKAI1 votesYeah one would imagine after years of some random addiction to blood transfusion he should have contracted something he shouldn't by now....
But really silence is his foe, grievous wound kills his arse.
Old Man Teeto1 votesVlad's designed with a piss poor early game with a strong DPS low Burst damage late game play pattern.
This is the healthiest way they could make his kit.
Compared to other "DPS" style champions like Cassio, Karthus, Rumble, Azir, his early game is far weaker with much lower "best case scenario" burst and takes much longer to unlock his power.