Galio will join Sivir, Azir, Shen, and Rek'sai

The Ecdysiast··57 votes·3,021 views

On the list of champions who were too strong in pro play and got nerfed for everyone else because of it.

That is, after a couple months and 3 rounds of nerfs.

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Slythion36 votes

Kalista

Omen466 votes

^this [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Ahristocats22 votes

she also was kind of cancer

Ralanr19 votes

Kind of? That's putting it lightly imo.

Tentacle Love4 votes

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Kind of? That's putting it lightly imo.

That was a typo. Dr Sona x Rubick meant to say "king." [slayer-jinx-wink]

Teslyn13 votes

i just feel bad for Pantheon now because of how slow his ult is vs Galio

AlienPrimate24 votes

Pantheon can go anywhere he wants though, he doesn't need an ally target.

Spoofghoul15 votes

the real question is what happens when you target an airborne pantheon with galio's ult

AmazoX2 votes

Imagine targeting Shen when he teleports in his last frame second and going with him as Galio. Super awesome.

Raoul6 votes

wont happen, you would go to where shen was WHEN you cast the ability, not where hes going to be when you land, so if you target shen before he teleports, you just end up alone in some lane...

AmazoX2 votes

I know, Just thought what if there was a bug that would let that happen. :)

Oleandervine3 votes

If you target an airborne Pantheon, you will come down where Pantheon first went up, since Pantheon doesn't move when he ults, he just goes up, then comes down in a different spot.

Melledoneus2 votes

You can't target an airborne Pantheon.

Teslyn1 votes

now i must wait for the patch. want to see if i can click on the icon of pantheon while he is in the air and where would galio go?

Melledoneus2 votes

Nowhere. You can't target untargetable units. Being a Shen main, I know this very well.

The Ecdysiast2 votes

Since Galio only goes to where the ally is at the time of cast, that means he will launch into orbit and never come down.

Tusutaki4 votes

Hey remember when they nerfed Panth Jung because he was able to get drag early but still have champs who can accomplish the same task and also have reworked Warwick be able to get a 3min Drag at lvl 2?

Remember when they also nerfed his E making him fall off late game even harder and sooner? Good times man.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

I still want to know what Dragon's basic attacks are. They aren't basic attacks, because Pantheon can't block them. They aren't spells, because Nocturne can't block them.

Draw My Fursona1 votes

they do pop spellshields, though.

i've sivir spellshielded them before, quite consistently.

Leblancs Boob7 votes

Everyone will get downvoted for saying this. Galio's new kit significantly lacks weaknesses.

Big Lincoln3 votes

he gets shit on by AD DPS champs, possibly harder than any other tanky champ will

Omen462 votes

does buying armor not help him at all?

Big Lincoln2 votes

his damage reduction on W scales much worse with armor than it does with MR, and the shield doesn't help him at all vs physical damage

for example just finished a game w/ him before pbe went down again, 195 armor and 190 MR, I had 11% extra damage reduction from MR and only 4% from armor, I believe

Omen461 votes

...why does a tank need natural damage reduction now? Isn't suppose to be the items and play style to make the game and not the champion select? And his purpose has been to HARD counter mages hasn't it? If That's the case than anything less than a 5 man perfect match set up is kinda worthless. Then the plan would be to balance all lategame earlygame and midgame champions with perfect allies to fit with it and some hard counters to the other champions selected. Or is it that now we're going into another series of intense hard carry champions. I'll tell you something funny, to small to be a statistic, but out of the 6 games i've played with Garen I have won all 6, wether on aram or on rift. I decided to mess around and against Yasuo i rush built item 3031. Then got a kill on both him and the jungle. he flashed his m6 icon. i'm still under m2...

sorry for whining. I'm having trouble finding something to enjoy and not complain about. now even the tanks are finding ways to 1 shot opponents.

The Ecdysiast2 votes

I already made a thread speculating this, but I think damage reduction is going to be added to EVERY tank in the tank update. This'll be to counter the abuse of penetration items without actually nerfing the penetration items. And then next update will be to marksmen again, etc. etc. in circles.

AmazoX1 votes

Wouldn't it be Vanguards after Divers? Or Enchanters & then probably Juggernauts again and then maybe in pre-season 9 we'd see Marksmen update again lol.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Vanguards are first up. They decided to push back Divers for Aatrox's sake.

I just wish they'd undo the needless juggernaut buffs. The only one that was a success was Darius, and after everyone else got nerfed and he didn't get touched, he's still sitting at the same success he had before the "update."

Sire Hippington2 votes

and yet you can havr 55% damagereduction for up to 5.5sec on a not as huge cd, makeing you more resilent vs physical dps than prettymuch any other champ he doesn't get countered by armorpen. With his curret kit and numbers, he puts Mao to shame in both, utillity and tankiness...

Also, his anti magic damage kit allows him to put more gold into armor/health while staying really tanky vs magic damage.

Nymzo1 votes

Am I the only one who is seeing a contradiction in his kit?

I mean Galio is strong against mages but is bad against ad, right?

Yet he still has his taunt, the only form of cc that doesn't cripple ad champions all that much (aside from forcing them to focus him obviously).

Of course, taunt affects ap champions too but... still

bbQsauçe7 votes

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Over Innsmouth19 votes

Let's be honest, Camille was a mistake of a release.

Ralanr5 votes

Showing us that fighters can get really fucking dumb.

Over Innsmouth6 votes

Camillee's core problem is that she's basically Irelia with a modernized kit, and Irelia is still one of the worst designed Fighters in the game.

Which is a shame because I absolutely adore Camille as a character.

Ralanr4 votes

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Camillee's core problem is that she's basically Irelia with a modernized kit, and Irelia is still one of the worst designed Fighters in the game.

Which is a shame because I absolutely adore Camille as a character.

So glad I'm not the only one to notice this.

Spôôked1 votes

URF Irelia gives me nightmares with how much she stuns you in 5 seconds

Over Innsmouth2 votes

Irelia gives me nightmares

FTFY

Orangesilk3 votes

TahmKench Alistar Elise Gnar Viktor

Spôôked1 votes

Lol I actually do pretty well with Vladimir. I dont think hes Sivir, Azir, or Rek`Sai rank, but he is still weak

Bye Childhood7 votes

Kalista Gnar Ryze Maokai

Stars Shaper5 votes

Most likely

Add AurelionSol to the list.

Leo10244 votes

sivir and reksai are strong still, gallo still looks pretty strong from pbe play

The Ecdysiast3 votes

They're not. And yes, Galio will be. That's my point.

He's going to be abused in pro play, and Riot will nerf him for it.

Leo10244 votes

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They're not. And yes, Galio will be. That's my point.

He's going to be abused in pro play, and Riot will nerf him for it.

sivir is definetly good, rek sai is on the weaker side but not complete garbage like azir

Vegas Dad1 votes

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sivir and reksai are strong still, gallo still looks pretty strong from pbe play

Eh sivir is utter dog shit she is a wave clear bot who can speed up real carries that make picks; as an ADC she is absolutely dogshit.

Leo10242 votes

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Eh sivir is utter dog shit she is a wave clear bot who can speed up real carries that make picks; as an ADC she is absolutely dogshit.

or are you just dogshit at playing her? harass with Q and get mana back with E, which is super easy because idiot mage supports like brand will just keep throwing shit at you for free mana, she's got a good winrate too, she's not bad at all

AmazoX3 votes

Nidalee ?

Big Lincoln2 votes

i don't see how he'll be weak in soloQ, he's fairly straightforward

The Ecdysiast6 votes

He's going to be abused in pro play, and then subsequently nerfed. Might even lose half his secondary ability text, like Azir.

Meep Man2 votes

Global mobility ultimates can sometimes do that, especially when they provide buffs.

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