Making it 3/8 instead of 2/10 would open up the option for him to be played top lane more competitively. Why is it being restricted. He has LOWER armor than Lucian, so it's not an issue of him being too good as a laner, he already takes 2/3 HP from riven at level 1.
With so few viable melee, why hard restrict even more?
Drogmyre1 votesHonestly the way Sion's kit functions bugs me a bit.
He's almost perfect. ALMOST. Which makes his few flaws really aggravating.
First: His W functionality. He has no incentive to keep the shield up past 2 seconds, it doesn't scale in damage over time, it dissipates if broken, etc. I don't get why his W doesn't explode once the shield is destroyed, the way it used to work.
Second: His HP scaling. Yes, if he had high base HP he'd basically be unkillable with a lot of farm. But that's the whole fucking point: He's the undead juggernaut, not the undead kleenex. It's not like BoRK doesn't exist, same goes for about 1/3 of the champ roster which has % HP damage. Giving Sion high base health AND scaling on W isn't going to break the game.
Third: His ult. Holy god i love his ult, but i HATE how unresponsive it is. I don't propose allowing him to turn on a dime, I just want to be able to turn well enough to move around obstacles and be less easy as hell to juke, that's all.
Eapenator1 votesI also agree that sion is nearly perfect, but some of the points you listed are in accurate
His W functionality is the same as before. With the old sion, if you destroyed his shield, then it would not explode. The reason it seemed like Sion was always able to trigger the second effect almost always before was because his shield would reach an insane value with his most popular style of play, AP sion. This gave the sion player alot of room trigger the W after taking some damage. With the current sion, the shield value is pretty substantial (compared to other similar shields) however much smaller than before, giving the enemy to burst through it before sion can trigger it. However, it can be argued that this plays into the skill of sion
His HP scaling is an issue, as he becomes extremely tanky quickly when playing jungle, however, becoming as tanky requires alot more farm if you go top. In addition to this, his hp scaling further makes going top less attractive, because he either ends up really squish if you had a bad time, or slightly more tanky if you had a really dominant laning phase. I agree that if I at least do well in lane, I should be un-killable, however currently this is not the case. In both jungle and top lane, I feel sion needs more tankiness to reward him for playing well.
E: Eh, it is an alright skill, it could be much better, giving the unreliability of sion, but I digress
R: I like the ultimate where it is, as it gives me global presence as a top laner. By taking teleport, I can base, choose a lane, ult that lane, get or kill or burn flash, which then my jungler can come and pressure, and then teleport top. Some of the issues that I do not understand about the ultimate is that it further emphasizes mobility meta. Sion's ultimate is perfect against champions with no dashes, but against a vayne or lucian, if they are somewhat competent, they can dodge your ultimate easily. This leads to another case of hey look mobility counters this, while non-mobile champions are basically unable to retaliate outside of flash.
Some overall points Sion basically functions as a champion without an ultimate in the top lane. If not given the charge up time, sion's ultimate does not do enough damage or cc for 1 v 1 duels. This makes him a very weak dueling top laner (since he lacks the tools shen has, who has another non-dueling ultimate). However, I will agree that I am able to outplay my opponents from time to time with sion, and infact, I am able to win lanes that some other popular top laners struggle with, because sion has good wave clearing and situational skills
Junkο3 votesI don't get why his W doesn't explode once the shield is destroyed, the way it used to work.
It never worked like that, the sound effect played but it didn't explode
Kuroi861 votesRiot is working on putting him in a good spot. Keep playing, Riot will see the numbers and if he's not performing up to snuff, they will tweak him some more.
chumbler2 votesRiot is working on putting him in a good spot. Keep playing, Riot will see the numbers and if he's not performing up to snuff, they will tweak him some more.
Lol if you actually believe this. The Sion rework was not intended to produce a viable champion.
Kuroi861 votesAnd if you believe that, you seriously just need to walk away from the game because you're lost.
