Boards›Gameplay

I miss the old iteration of rageblade and devourer.

Eyesack·May 29, 2016·10 votes·1,131 views

I don't miss the cancer gameplay of having to afk farm the jungle for sated.

What i miss is actually being able to play the attack speed fighters whose collective viability was tied to these items.

Can't play yi, shyvana, jax, xin, aatrox and the like anymore if I actually want to win. You can't even pick these champions anymore without getting harrassed by your team. You're a liability if you pick one of them.

Meddler said the balance team would actually look at these champions if after the devourer changes they needed buffs. Well, here they are, our finest attack speed fighters, gone. Trashed. Sitting at 46-47% winrate with the like of urgot and illaoi. In the dumpster.

I'm done being optimistic about the removal of devourer and rageblade. The champions i've listed above were pretty much balanced around building devourer. There is no devourer anymore. There is no power spike. These champions now suck ALL game. Riot has decided to remove devourer in 6.9 and then 2 patches later theres still champions awaiting compensational buffs.

Will the trinity and wits end changes help? Sure they will. The question is whether or not they will help enough. Again, I am not optimistic. After the roller coaster this entire season has been, especially with the introduction of dynamic queue, I am not optimistic about this games balance nor the state of this game at all.

14 Comments

Irelia BotMay 29, 20161 votes

This is in part why Wit's and Trinity changes are happening.

EyesackMay 29, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=Irelia Bot,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=igrj1hb4,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-05-29T22:43:01.896+0000)

This is in part why Wit's and Trinity changes are happening.

it is but i really dont think it'll change the state of these champs significantly. I think a tweak to rageblade and tweaks to some of these champs are needed.

MunchCrunchLunchMay 30, 20161 votes

yeah am looking forward to that. trinity force for everyone muhahahahaa

EyesackMay 30, 20162 votes

{quoted}

yeah am looking forward to that. trinity force for everyone muhahahahaa

Im calling it now irelia is going to draw bans next patch.

KingnewgameplusMay 30, 20161 votes

What I'm most scared about is Yasuo item 3087 item 3031 item 3078 since there'll be more attack speed and no wasted crit. It's expensive but yas is really good at farming post shiv.

Naag OneMay 30, 20161 votes

I'd take 15-20 min afk farming over new bloodrazor/rageblade anyday

the new items really suck so bad... I see Yi mains in high division(Diamond 1+, EUW) on op.gg. they build warrior+yommu now.
new rageblade is top of line trash :D. you lose AS for completing it, is insanely expensive and its already 15-20 minutes by the time you finish it(if you still want to) unless you snowball early somehow, has non existent on-hit damage and you're probably already dead before you can fully stack it. I mean 6 AA to fully stack on squishy melee fighter/assassin....thats 3 seconds with 2.0 AS. in that time, either you're dead or the enemy is :D

old items rewarded you well for time invested. new ones reward the enemy team if you build them, cause you just invested gold in trash items and are now weak as fk

EyesackMay 30, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=Naag One,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=igrj1hb4,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-05-30T07:12:37.997+0000)

I'd take 15-20 min afk farming over new bloodrazor/rageblade anyday

the new items really suck so bad... I see Yi mains in high division(Diamond 1+, EUW) on op.gg. they build warrior+yommu now.
new rageblade is top of line trash :D. you lose AS for completing it, is insanely expensive and its already 15-20 minutes by the time you finish it(if you still want to) unless you snowball early somehow, has non existent on-hit damage and you're probably already dead before you can fully stack it. I mean 6 AA to fully stack on squishy melee fighter/assassin....thats 3 seconds with 2.0 AS. in that time, either you're dead or the enemy is :D

old items rewarded you well for time invested. new ones reward the enemy team if you build them, cause you just invested gold in trash items and are now weak as fk

Oh yea. New rageblade is not an item in the game if youre playing seriously. Since its release i built it twice so far and both times its basically been me just wasting 3600 gold.

Akali is SO HOTMay 30, 20161 votes

The problem is that they weren't balanced around rageblade + devourer. The combo of those 2 items was horrendously overpowered and is what made most of them pretty much perma ban during the whole fiasco with those 2 items. Now that the combo is gone they don't have anything to abuse anymore which has made them weaker.

Naag OneMay 30, 20161 votes

so they were weaker from the start u mean?

riot release a couple of items that made them viable, they starts to see some play, everybody cried OP, and riot removed the items, while also nerfing the champions who were main users of the items. wat is this??

only ridiculous shit with sated+devourer was xin zhao, who for some odd reason was buffed(more healing i think + added crit)

LankPantsMay 30, 20161 votes

so they were weaker from the start u mean?

No, they were just all nerfed to the point where they were utterly pathetic because of Sated and Sated made them seem decent.

EyesackMay 30, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Naag One,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=igrj1hb4,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-05-30T08:00:36.122+0000)

so they were weaker from the start u mean?

riot release a couple of items that made them viable, they starts to see some play, everybody cried OP, and riot removed the items, while also nerfing the champions who were main users of the items. wat is this??

only ridiculous shit with sated+devourer was xin zhao, who for some odd reason was buffed(more healing i think + added crit)

Throughout the season yi was getting nerfed because he synergized very well with devourer. He got an e nerf, q damage to monsters nerf, nerf to ult duration. Honestly he got hit pretty hard overall. And then, after riot realized that their nerfs weren't working, they just removed devourer. And what happens. This is a classic case of a champion getting sejuani'd. Nerfs to champion because item is overpowered followed by nerfs to item, making the champion useless.

LankPantsMay 30, 20161 votes

Can't play yi, shyvana, jax, xin, aatrox and the like anymore if I actually want to win.

At least for Shyvana build tanky bruiser. Something like item 1413 > item 3748 > item 3143 > item 3065 > item 3022 gives you enough offence while letting you actually tank for your team. This is the optimal way to play Shyvana now, it was honestly about as good as Devourer before its removal. It's just less hard carryish. You need to actually play around your team. I could also see a build like this working for Xin too.

Jax is also completely fine, he's just a top laner, which he has been historically anyway. Just build item 3078 > item 3146 > tank.

EyesackMay 30, 20161 votes

{quoted}

At least for Shyvana build tanky bruiser. Something like > > > > gives you enough offence while letting you actually tank for your team. This is the optimal way to play Shyvana now, it was honestly about as good as Devourer before its removal. It's just less hard carryish. You need to actually play around your team. I could also see a build like this working for Xin too.

Jax is also completely fine, he's just a top laner, which he has been historically anyway. Just build > > tank.

I've tried it man but it still does less than half the damage of devourer/titanic shyvana. Imo its just not the same

More from Gameplay

3 Refunds per season, upvote if you want 3 refunds per season.

GameplayJul 18, 2015764 comments

3 Refunds per season, upvote if you want 3 refunds per season.

GameplaySep 1, 2015156 comments

GameplayApr 1, 2016606 comments

GameplayDec 21, 2014456 comments

3 Refunds per season, up vote if you want 3 refunds per season.

GameplaySep 17, 2015114 comments

When is ANYONE at riot going to address the awful new player experience?

GameplayNov 30, 2014634 comments

More by Eyesack

Riot finally did it. They finally said FUCK YOU to all their players.

GameplayMay 31, 2016578 comments

I DONT WANT TO PLAY WITH OR AGAINST PREMADES ON THE RANKED LADDER.

GameplayApr 18, 2016136 comments

Dynamique queue will NEVER be a true ladder experience

GameplayApr 4, 2016166 comments

Can we remove devourer from the game and then actually fix champs that rely on it to function?

GameplayApr 9, 2016301 comments

Games literally end at 5 minutes.

GameplayAug 26, 2019104 comments

Is there a reason why leblancs ethereal chains range is 865 with a tether of 925?

GameplayOct 28, 201891 comments