Seriously? I really thought they would address him. Not only that but next patch has no nerfs to him. It's mind boggling
Why is Graves getting preferential treatment?
And the new ADC items will only make him more busted
nelogis6 votesGraves is one of the most broken champion ever allowed on rift yet hotfix still not comes
LUL You clearly haven't played this game for too long
Riot propably wants to wait on balancing ADCs prior to the ADC item update, it would be wasted time to balance something, then change and balance it again.
WukongMain5 votesthe way i see it ....
the situation is vary grave...
GripaAviara2 votesHim renouncing smoking made him pretty agile
ForFoxSakes1 voteswhat do you mean renounce... he's been smoking again for awhile now
GripaAviara1 votesDoes he though? Or is just an electronic cigar?
FOR JUSTICE5 votesYou do realize hes been like this since his recent buffs, but no one actually started playing him until only around 1-2 patches ago?
Also hotfixes are for game-breaking bugs. A champ being meta for a bit is far from hotfixable.
GripaAviara1 votesI know he's like this but now he is almost every game where he's not banned abusing this
Fear the Kayn5 votesFuck off lol, Graves was literally shit tier a little while back and now that he's good again you want him nerfed?
GripaAviara1 votesThat doesn't justify a champion being overpowered
Fear the Kayn3 votesThat doesn't justify a champion being overpowered
He's not overpowered.
GripaAviara1 votesIs that a joke?
Fear the Kayn1 votesIs that a joke?
How is he overpowered?
KZ Engel1 votesinstead of just describing his kit, i'll use stats
52% winrate highest pick rate out of all junglers only 4 bad matchups (does 49.96% even count as bad?) out of 39 champions
also challenger players consider him op
GripaAviara1 votesNot only that but for a champion that has no fan base like Yasuo to reach an almost 1/4 pick rate is amazing if count in that high ban rate
N7Darius1 votessure graves is not op, or broken, and yeah he can be won against, but still, he has a loooooooot of snoballing potential. from better trades than most junglers, high ganking capabilities with slow smoke screen, and red buff plus gap closer and fleet foot, not to mention more mobility with items, sooo, yeahits fucking helluva annoying, its like u have to be perfect or u are gravely royally fucked, uhe has fast clear rate, so when ur behind he will clear ur jungles too, too fast. i mean its not like yi, shyvana, orkindred, that they actually has to get rolling on the snoball, he is the fucking snoball. Oh and did u know about the maxed out free 120 armor on a fucking adc? so in summary, fleet foot, ravenous hunter, storm razor, deaths dance, black cleaver, sterak and boot, like wtf that sustain and damage and mobility, tankiness, with snoballing (more powerfull) from level frigging 1. that sure doesnt justify being overpowered,but he is powered, in damage, mobility, tankiness, and snoball from the start of the game, u cant stop him from river crab or counter jungling cos u cant trade with him,if ur a melee jungler, u will automatically be lower health than him, even every other range jungler takes damage like taliyah, kindred, but not him, its just that all the items passives and rune passive, is fucking broken on graves. I usually ban jax or yi, but holy shit this guy starts snoball from lvl 1 so i ban this %%%% every game. also yeah to every1 who is reading this, u c people pick those op champs like a bitch, u guys make sure, u pick those wombo combo, and super cc, till kingdom come, cc, i hate graves as much as i hate teemo, yi and jax. dont ever sa ggwps to those ass, cos if they were any good at this they wont abuse the game then.
z63XnLCMwX3 votesYou haven't played this game when S3 Kassadin existed. As much as I love him, he was beyond broken.
Dead flag blues2 votes
combo is really bs, he shouldn't be tanking more than a 
or 
while being ranged and not buying any defensive item
RedPannda1 votes[{quoted}](name=Dead flag blues,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iNrUF23L,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-05-15T11:35:48.653+0000)
If you aren't buying black cleaver on him you are doing it wrong.
ForFoxSakes1 votesHe doesnt bring CC and initiation unlike those two. Cant just bitch about tankiness and damage output while ignoring everything else
Jax and Xin also match vs Graves pretty well
King of Demons1 votesAlmost like we've seen all of this before, same build, same champion.
GripaAviara1 votesWell obviously is about recent history :)
That was another game designer team
KZ Engel1 votesi'd say barrel bug gp was more broken
also season 3 kass
and release rek