When your top super pushes and doesnt respond to easy dives
When your mid has no kill pressure despite being pushed to their turret because they cant land a bind
When your bot doesnt clear wards or force engages just before the jungler arrives
When the enemy team actually responds to you attempting to counterjungle and your team doesnt.
Ok, guess ill just powerfarm while top and bot feed. Real good agency here.
Martyrofsand3 votesSo if your allies have pushed in all their lanes to turret that is literally the perfect time for you to counter jungle, provided you know what you are doing. If the enemies are all under turret and you counter jungle while paying attention it doesn't matter if your laners respond you should still be able to get in, get vision, possibly even a camp and get out.
Prioritize vision, get out as soon as the enemy laners start to leave their lanes and all that will happen is the enemy team falls farther behind losing CS to their tower while chasing you and now your team has vision of the enemy jungler to protect them while they are pushing.
The whole "my laners push the enemy to turret but the enemy team still responds to my invading" just screams you are exaggerating.
Hibeki1 votesNot all of them push to the turret though, it's only top. I go for top dive? He doesnt respond. Go for the jungle? Mid comes to help, but because our mid is a beta pushover, they dont respond and still lose out on farm. Same for the botside
Martyrofsand1 votesSo what you are telling me is that top lane wasn't very gankable, but your mid laner and bot laner where sitting under their turrets while their laning opponents bullied them and you couldn't get a gank out of that.
Your story is falling apart more and more.
Hibeki1 votesMy dude you cant force a kill where people's brains arent present. Youre telling me youve never ganked and the laner just didn't respond at all?
Martyrofsand1 votesHaving bad teammates happens, but your stance is you had nothing you could do when you very clearly did. Ganks don't have to result in kills to be successful, they don't have to be engaged by the laner depending on which jungler you are, say a Zac can easily gank without the laner landing something first for example.
Considering you have never stated who you where jungling, never really stated what the laning match-ups are, and simply wanted to rage at a bad game and act like you where some helpless victim held hostage by your team with zero agency at all, simply put this is a fallacy that is often created and spat out by people who think of this game in such a linear way.
TheProfezzor1 votesAll very true. People don't understand there is a thing as a lane being ungankable. What I'm not helping you out? Sorry you lane is not gankable it would honestly be a waste of time for me to go there.