If Cleanse had a 60 second cooldown, would you actually use it?

xxxMadLionxxx··11 votes·853 views

Hey Guys

I've tried cleans in the past and while it is good, it is limited to the type of cc it counters. I learnt the hard way that it does not counter knock ups/suppression.

After realizing this, I put it back in closet like everyone else. I felt like it's good but not worth it on such a huge cooldown as it only counter some forms of CC. Where as with flash you can potentially avoid damage and CC all together for just 100 more seconds on cooldown.

The other thing I found annoying is that the effectiveness of the spell is reliant on how quickly you can cast it after being CC'ed.

So if I got stunned for 1 second and only manage to react 1 second later and cast the spell, then it would be useless. I always felt the way it should work is that it should cast a spell shield that last for 10 seconds and block 1 incomming CC. This would improve its effectiveness way more.

Also, I'm tired of having no real choice besides flash.

Please up vote so we can here many opinions

13 Comments

Jbels4 votes

Depends on who's on their team. If they have a team with a surpression, like Skarner or Urgot, then no. I would take a different summoner spell and just by a QSS

BlkGolem3 votes

That always was a problem with cleanse, you have to get cc'd for it to work and half the time it does't matter at that point.

Joe Dredd2 votes

that's ridiculous l0l. u pick it whenever someone has good cc ult (like ashe) and have cleanse whenever its up

Penns2 votes

I would already use cleanse against things like TF lol.

Hugify2 votes

would be way too overpowered.

Jungle Lux God2 votes

If the enemy team has no CC, cleanse would still be pretty bad. If the enemy team had a knock-up or some other form of displacement, then it would also be pretty bad. If the enemy team had a suppression or two as their only hard CC, then it also would be pretty bad.

If the enemy team had any other form of hard CC, then cleanse would be the single best summoner spell in the entire game by a very large margin. 60 second hard CC removal and tenacity would be game-breakingly good. Tanks and supports that have no knock-ups would be really bad, mages wouldn't be very good, utility carries and immobile bruisers that rely on some form of CC to engage (such as Nasus or Olaf) would also be really bad, and assassins and bruisers would run rampant over the entire map because so few champions would be able to peel against them.

Cowgirl Ed2 votes

60 s Cleanse is insanely OP, I'd take that to everybody

The Queen Viper1 votes

Already using Cleanse with Cass quite frequently.

BakedLotion1 votes

Then you would completely invalidate an ult. Every CC ult has more than a 60 sec cooldown. So what you're saying is to make every ult completely disappear?

Marthian1 votes

Cleanse doesn't work on supression or displacement.

xxxMadLionxxx1 votes

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Then you would completely invalidate an ult. Every CC ult has more than a 60 sec cooldown. So what you're saying is to make every ult completely disappear?

Well yea, that's a valid point. But most ult with CC tend to be AOE and have a knock up. So cleanse does not work on knock up, and if the ult just has a stun/slow/snare, it is AOE so some champs will still be affected in a team fight unless everyone has cleanse. Also Qss has a 60 second cooldown, but hardly anyone uses it.

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BakedLotion2 votes

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Well yea, that's a valid point. But most ult with CC tend to be AOE and have a knock up. So cleanse does not work on knock up, and if the ult just has a stun/slow/snare, it is AOE so some champs will still be affected in a team fight unless everyone has cleanse. Also Qss has a 60 second cooldown, but hardly anyone uses it.

Example

Amumu Anivia Ashe Azir Braum Cassiopeia Fizz Galio Gnar Gragas Hecarim Kalista Kennen LeeSin Leona Lissandra Lulu Malphite Morgana Nami Nautilus Nunu Orianna Sejuani Shyvana Sion Sona Thresh Tristana Varus MonkeyKing XinZhao Yasuo Zac Zyra

Cleanse would automatically become the new flash if it were 60 sec cooldown. You only fight every minute or so anyways... Lux? lol cleanse gl bursting me lol thresh hook? cleanse.

It's gonna be used on everyone but the jungler, unless you're against a laner with no cc. If you know your lane opponent is morg or nami then you jsut bring cleanse and completely ignore their cc. No one's dumb enough to get hit more than once a minute anyways. (Well, except bronze)

Chuck Charles1 votes

lol cleanse is already being brought by LCS pros in mid and even starting to see it more and more at ADC. cleanse is viable in its current state. this buff would make it ridiculous.

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