I'm so sick of losing...

Trash MammaI··23 votes·3,686 views

Not because the enemy team is better than me. Not because I got outplayed. Not because i'm bad. Not because I think i'm pro.

I'm sick of people who are legitimately stupid at this game. Be it the champ they're playing, the map they're on, or the person they're going against.

People are legit stupid.

I just had a game where my Gnar was losing top lane vs Vlad. So I kindly told him to build a cowl or mr in general. Ignoring me he went to first build a sunfire..and continued losing. Afterwards he got a yomumu and we lost shortly after where he was building a bork.

Needless to say this Vlad stomped us. I would love to have roamed but me and my adc were bot lane being camped hard so I stayed bot warding/helping to keep her from dying. We eventually caught up and started doing well, but we had a fed as crap vlad to deal with.

We lost.

Previous games i'd have something as retarded as a 0/3/0 rengar try to fight a 5/0 irelia or have someone on the enemy team run past 3 wards and be pinged of their location yet still have an ally ignorant as to their arrival.

I don't care about winning. I don't care about losing. I don't care what goes on in this game, but the REASON i'm losing ..simply because people are too stupid to read patch notes/look at the mini map/ alter ther build paths etc. then it gets irritating.

Exactly how stupid can people get? Normally I would use the term ignorant as people don't know any better, but with 30 levels and being able to do 10 ranked games and get a rank I would expect people to have common sense by then.

37 Comments

ModAttysu The Poro16 votes

Me whenever I have all 4 wards on the map and am constantly sweeping, but I get yelled at for not warding enough.

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Trash MammaI2 votes

Funny enough they don't say shet about wards until they die. Fucking hate people

ModAttysu The Poro3 votes

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Funny enough they don't say shet about wards until they die. Fucking hate people

Exactly! I'm like "they JUST DIED give me like 5 seconds to buy stuff... jeez if wards are so important why didn't you upgrade trinket Mr. Levevl 15 Fed Talon?"

Also, when I play any other lane I ALWAYS buy pinks and greens, and upgrade trinket. I feel like I'm the only one bothering to help the support out and not be a douche. >_> then again I'm Bronze what do I expect.

Salidfingers3 votes

LOL, I know the feeling.

Ive been told i don't ward and i look post game and i have 3 times more wards then anyone on our team......

ModAttysu The Poro3 votes

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LOL, I know the feeling.

Ive been told i don't ward and i look post game and i have 3 times more wards then anyone on our team......

I just don't get their logic. They refuse to ward but then complain that there's no wards but mine... xD

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FooDang1 votes

Its not about how many wards you have on the map, it's about warding properly and rotating vision. Not saying you do it but just in general if we just took dragon and not pushing a tower then the support needs to recall to refresh sightstone and pink to gain Baron control or vision around team fights.

Its annoying having our supports wards all over the enemy jungle when most of the team fights are happening in our jungle. I know its not only the supports job to ward but it is definitely the supports job to rotate vision.

ModAttysu The Poro1 votes

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Its not about how many wards you have on the map, it's about warding properly and rotating vision. Not saying you do it but just in general if we just took dragon and not pushing a tower then the support needs to recall to refresh sightstone and pink to gain Baron control or vision around team fights.

Its annoying having our supports wards all over the enemy jungle when most of the team fights are happening in our jungle. I know its not only the supports job to ward but it is definitely the supports job to rotate vision.

Agreed. I watch a lot of warding tip videos of where good pink placement is, and how to determine when vision in a certain place in necessary. :3

Wicked Waffle7 votes

Look at this world. Look around you. What do you see that has changed from the last twenty years? I see retarded spoiled kids who live in the gentle care of society. I see the government catering to these kids. I see kids who have never known the feeling of war, nor the terror of a town being sacked. That's just how society is nowadays; it's no longer survival of the fittest, but rather survival of the numbers. It's only natural that this will be reflected in video games. People don't know how to adapt in real life. As such, they go to videogames, thinking that they don't have to do anything outside the ordinary. However, League is a competitive game where you have to adapt, and they go on thinking that they don't. Which leads to the concept of ELO hell because these "mentally disabled" kids don't know how to think outside the box and believe that they deserve "challenjour."

I feel you, as does every sane person on this board does (not counting the kiddies). A few games back I had a top Gnar against a Riven. He lost lane hard because he didn't know the concept of attack-move, didn't know how to kite, and worst of all kept going for a BOTRK. A simple delay in his build in the form of a chain mail would've prevented his 0/7 score by the end of 10 MINUTES. He started flaming the team in chat, crying that I wasn't ganking, threatening to report me, and kept saying to FF@20. Meanwhile, I was ganking all lanes, putting vision control, and counterjungling, so that by the end of laning phase their entire jungler was a Christmas Tree, my bottom lane was 13/5 (Leona/Graves) OP, my mid laner 7/4, their jungler 4 levels behind me, and 2 dragons. Yet our top kept whining and decided to feed the other lanes and not help (not like he was worth much gold... but still, 50 gold counts). He started telling the other team out positions in all chat to get backed at us ganking and telling us that it was over (34 kills against 20 bro... and almost 75% of their kills was from Gnar). We won that game, but barely because of Gnar, and post game chat he said "it's just a normal lololol you can't report me cause we won anyways." Well fuck you Gnar, I'm reporting you anyways.

So yeah, sorry for writing a novel. People nowadays are just too selfish and limited for their own good.

Spizzle90002 votes

[{quoted}](name=Wicked Waffle,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=i72vYvYA,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-09-27T16:23:26.862+0000)

Look at this world. Look around you. What do you see that has changed from the last twenty years? I see retarded spoiled kids who live in the gentle care of society. I see the government catering to these kids. I see kids who have never known the feeling of war, nor the terror of a town being sacked. That's just how society is nowadays; it's no longer survival of the fittest, but rather survival of the numbers. It's only natural that this will be reflected in video games. People don't know how to adapt in real life. As such, they go to videogames, thinking that they don't have to do anything outside the ordinary. However, League is a competitive game where you have to adapt, and they go on thinking that they don't. Which leads to the concept of ELO hell because these "mentally disabled" kids don't know how to think outside the box and believe that they deserve "challenjour."

I feel you, as does every sane person on this board does (not counting the kiddies). A few games back I had a top Gnar against a Riven. He lost lane hard because he didn't know the concept of attack-move, didn't know how to kite, and worst of all kept going for a BOTRK. A simple delay in his build in the form of a chain mail would've prevented his 0/7 score by the end of 10 MINUTES. He started flaming the team in chat, crying that I wasn't ganking, threatening to report me, and kept saying to FF@20. Meanwhile, I was ganking all lanes, putting vision control, and counterjungling, so that by the end of laning phase their entire jungler was a Christmas Tree, my bottom lane was 13/5 (Leona/Graves) OP, my mid laner 7/4, their jungler 4 levels behind me, and 2 dragons. Yet our top kept whining and decided to feed the other lanes and not help (not like he was worth much gold... but still, 50 gold counts). He started telling the other team out positions in all chat to get backed at us ganking and telling us that it was over (34 kills against 20 bro... and almost 75% of their kills was from Gnar). We won that game, but barely because of Gnar, and post game chat he said "it's just a normal lololol you can't report me cause we won anyways." Well fuck you Gnar, I'm reporting you anyways.

So yeah, sorry for writing a novel. People nowadays are just too selfish and limited for their own good.

This Gnar. This Gnar. Just ugh. Like, I get that sometimes people have bad games, but when you're a GNAR against a RIVEN and you're losing hard (even if you're fed though) you really shouldn't be building BoRK first. Riven's not a tank.

Some people just love ruining the game for others, that's all. And this is why I only play normals, because at least when I lose a game I don't get really angry because I lose a ton of LP every single time I lose.

Wicked Waffle2 votes

I have no idea how Gnar was losing to Riven in the first place, but yeah. This is kinda why I lost faith in the League community. Also: I usually play normals, where I get matched with decent people that are nice/casual. In ranked, my team seems like Gosu-wannabes while the other team seems like Faker. I guess that's just me though.

Aceto Doppio3 votes

If youre getting this stressed over a video game loss which should be for fun and entertainment you need to find a hobby or something

Trash MammaI1 votes

I'm not stressed over it all. I'm just sick of losing in it because stupid people exist. I in no way am calling myself a genius or some godlike player but common sense shouldn't be too hard to use in this game

T RexHasTinyArms1 votes

Stressed an not enjoying something aren't inherently the same. He may just enjoy the game but not enjoy the people he plays w/. This is part of why I never played anything like starwars the old republic. I didn't have friends who played it and didn't want to group w/ people I didn't know and get along w/ to complete the game.

Although honestly I'd just suggest the OP stick to premades in normals w/ people he likes and playing ranked 5s if that's his issue bc in my experience solo que is 60-80% chill and like 1 in 5 games being troll or thrown hard by my team doesn't really bug me bc it's a low % of my games.

Celeste Benal1 votes

Point is there is a place for the more serious types (ranked), and the less serious types (normals). But the less serious types often just go straight for ranked and screw things up for the more serious types because "Its just a game. Who cares if I win or lose?". The 4 other players on your team care.

Mecha MaIphite2 votes

stupid enough to never get sweeper on junglers kappa

but in all seriousness, you can't really help it if your team does bad, you just have to focus on what you could be doing better so you can carry harder

Mongoose2 votes

consider getting good

Celeste Benal1 votes

Consider uninstalling.

Mongoose1 votes
Celeste Benal1 votes

You completely missed the point of my post.

Angry Monster2 votes

I would expect people to have common sense by then.

That was your first mistake. Think less of people you will get further in life and in game. No expectations to be ruined.

The problem you are running into is the crowd that says it just a game, so nothing matters beyond their fun. I once compared league to a pick up game of basketball and i was told my metaphor was wrong cause this was not a competitive game and basketball is. I stop replying to that thread.

All you can do is better your self and just let the sheep be the sheep.

AtheosisX1 votes

This is one of the reasons I've pretty much stopped playing ranked. The aggravation when you get tards and/or trolls on your team is just too amplified. At least with normals you can just shrug and move on to the next game without being penalized because others are mental defectives.

Trash MammaI1 votes

The only reason I play ranked these days is to get a serious game. I'm all fine and chill with goofing off but in normals if you Solo Q then you're bound to be stuck with premades who just annoy the hell out of you.

Only time I normal is with my friends since we're generally 3-5 man and we goof off without bitching at everyone. Till then i'm stuck in ranked. Sometimes you just wanna play the game but you go so many shenanigans going on it's impossible

AtheosisX1 votes

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This is one of the reasons I've pretty much stopped playing ranked. The aggravation when you get tards and/or trolls on your team is just too amplified. At least with normals you can just shrug and move on to the next game without being penalized because others are mental defectives.

After getting dropped a division because one idiot forced Morde mid (pushing me top with Malzahar, and with him against Ezreal ffs) and another idiot played Teemo support with no gold item or wards, I just don't see how ranked games are more serious. They're just more irritating.

BuyMeSkinsPls1 votes

Yeah, ranked is stupid. I usually have better games and LESS trolls when I play normals. I can't even jungle in ranked b/c every lane will die twice before the 5 minute mark. And of course no one on my team knows what a situational build is, or what a QSS does, or how to play from behind

Branimal1 votes

Care with this post man, haters exist on these boards! I posted a post previously about how I think they need systems against bad players just jumping into ranked. These horrible players exist bro, I know your pain! You can do the best you can but if you have even one incompetent person that's basically a 4v5. Sucks but unless they start a system like: You can only use champs you have level 4-5 for ranked, you have to have x amount of games played draft after reaching level 30 and finally a cs limit you have to achieve to prove your ability. These small tweaks would help so much, I wish riot would take some measures against shitty players. Smite did it, why can't we have this!

Trash MammaI1 votes

I dont even care for haters, I understand i'm not plat+ tier player. I'm well aware of my faults in the game and what I do wrong and have been working to improve those, but some people just do things so far out of whack that I can't help but think they're stupid. A misplay I can understand. An outplay I can understand.

Walking into an unwarded bush in the enemy jungle trying to steal a buff then dying and complaining about wards when everyone has at least 1 out but you. What the fuck? People legitimately make me wonder what goes on in their brain

Branimal1 votes

I hear ya man. It is a rough time when you get some losers, until riot implements something like noted above there will continue to be these issues :(.

Adrian Umbra1 votes

X number of games played draft would help. A CS limit would be a little bit hurtful to those out there who play support. It would also encourage someone to just sit and farm to try to reach that limit without helping their team. I'd just say the number of games thing would be a good idea.

Branimal1 votes

Thanks for replying! Yeah I see your point, makes sense enough. The cs limit would not count for supp (or at least I would not think). But yah, we need some sort of gating for the absolute worst players.

Adrian Umbra1 votes

How would you be able to tell they're playing support? Thus, CS limit being a bad idea for current ranked queues. Number of games isn't a guarantee either, sometimes you get people with 1k+ games who are on tilt and sometimes you get oldentime DotA players who will stomp hard after 100 games. Would probably raise the general skill level, but at the same time, it's not a guarantee.

Mythsblaze1 votes

If I could blacklist people so I would never have to play with them again I would be happy. After playing this game I've never wanted people removed from the face of this planet more than I have now. People trolling, feeding and out right simply greifing and baiting deaths to feed the other team makes me wish they would die in a fire. Spare the world from having to deal with those people.

T RexHasTinyArms1 votes

Eh, part of it is experience and how you approach the game. When I hit 30 and played ranked the first time I got placed in mid/low bronze, and I kinda feel bad for the people who played w/ me in promos/on my way dropping before my mmr stabilized. I think the frustration you're talking about will always exist though bc depending on where you're at in terms of game skill there will always be people worse than you so it will always be a source of frustration.

In season 3 I made gold rank by jungling Nunu and playing support Janna. Janna still had global move speed buff (move speed is so strong in low elo that it was broken as fuck), and Nunu was a strong counter jungler so I was able to put a lot of pressure on the enemy jungle. I remember thinking my Nunu jungle was decent, but I recently picked up jungling again after not maining that role since pre season 4, and I realize a ton of things I was terrible at. I had pretty much just memorized common jungle routes and exploited predictability of low elo jungle players. I couldn't adapt when an enemy played differently than normal, I didn't put down much/any lane pressure so I really just shut down the enemy jungle when I'd win, and I couldn't predict where lanes/jungle would want to roam/gank so I didn't counter gank for shit. Knowing exact times of the average jungle route for certain jungles, being able to consume smite w/ the right timing, building Nunu decently, judging when I could sneak baron/dragon, and timing buffs/dragon/baron (it wasn't auto back then) were all things that few low silver jungles did so it gave me a big advantage, but as I've become better at the game and learned to read the map and other roles better by playing them, I realize how terrible I was at the game back then. I see a lot of the flaws in my current game, and am working on them, but I bet there are plat and diamond players who would see things I'm not seeings.

Similarly, at low silver you play with people who finished placements but haven't dropped to the rank they will eventually bc they got lucky in a couple placements (like that gnar only playing vs ad champs top lane in placements or something) , and you probably play w/ bronze players who are duo w/ mid silvers, or who are on a good win streak. It's frustrating when people who have less understanding of the game are in the same games w/ you, but I think stupidity isn't the only reason for that behavior. I played mostly bots to level 30 on my first account and used super cookie cutter builds and didn't understand certain champs or trade well (concepts like wave control were waaaayyy beyond me at the time). People may not have invested the same amount of time and energy you have into learning the game and too this day I tend not to listen people who are rude about advice (not saying you were, but just a note from games I've played) , and while I'll generally look at improving it in the next game I tilt super hard when someone is like "dude you suck, do this instead you crap player." However, at the same time, when I realized how bad I was I invested a lot of energy in getting better, and I may never be good at the game bc of slow reaction times, lack of attention span, and inconsistency of play if I'm happy or sad or whatever that day, but I like to think I'm okay now (low gold is about 30% on the ladder which is probably closer to 50% when you account for people playing multiple accounts, and decent/average is okay w/me).

TLDR; There will always be people worse than you and always be people better than you. As you get better things that seemed difficult before seem stupid for someone to miss, so try to think of a way to find compassion instead of frustration bc the people will drop in rank if they are consistently that bad, and if they're just having a crap game and playing more stupid than usual they're probably as frustrated w/ themselves as you are (well if they're ever gonna climb the ladder they are).

Zone of Endless1 votes

It's never other people's fault, it's always yours. Just gotta carry harder :^)

Lt Cuddles1 votes

Its better to play this game with friends, really..

FooDang1 votes

You rarely have a positive K/D ratio so I'm pretty sure that your team could say the same thing about you. JS

O Fallen Scholar1 votes

What bothers me is that people tilt over one misplay etc. What also bothers me is that people don't look minimap.

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