zyra's vulnerablility

Valhalla Rising·Mar 26, 2015·3 votes·408 views

Am I wrong in saying it's a bit too much for this meta?

even when she sits behind 3 tanks, her low health, AR, MS and lack of escape or hard cc makes her a bullseye in almost any champions eye.

I know she has the potential to do some good cc's and damage but she has more potential to be instated.

none the less, I would suggest a trade off of her auto attack range for some base+scaling health.

she has 575 range, which could easily drop to 525 and still be relevant, and currently has 1737 health at level 18 which I think should be closer to 1950.

inb4 you could compare her to other champions but it's pointless because they have different kits and maybe they also need buffs, this is a zyra topic.

5 Comments

kcStrangerMar 26, 20152 votes

Just wanted to add one thing to the discussion...Zyra's win rates in ranked solo gold/platinum/diamond are roughly 52/51/50% (based on lolking). Win rates aren't everything, but these do suggest that she's at least pretty close to being balanced, though the drop with increasing level is perhaps concerning, indicative of a weakness that better players can exploit. Perhaps that weakness is the fragility/lack of escapes that you mentioned.

I've never actually played Zyra (and only played against her a few times), so I don't think I can intelligently comment about what the truth is here. I think the change you suggest would be a pretty nice buff for support Zyra (where the autos shouldn't matter as much) and somewhat less for solo-lane Zyra. I don't think I'd be opposed to something along the lines of your suggestion, not sure about exact numbers.

Valhalla RisingMar 26, 20151 votes

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Just wanted to add one thing to the discussion...Zyra's win rates in ranked solo gold/platinum/diamond are roughly 52/51/50% (based on lolking). Win rates aren't everything, but these do suggest that she's at least pretty close to being balanced, though the drop with increasing level is perhaps concerning, indicative of a weakness that better players can exploit. Perhaps that weakness is the fragility/lack of escapes that you mentioned.

I've never actually played Zyra (and only played against her a few times), so I don't think I can intelligently comment about what the truth is here. I think the change you suggest would be a pretty nice buff for support Zyra (where the autos shouldn't matter as much) and somewhat less for solo-lane Zyra. I don't think I'd be opposed to something along the lines of your suggestion, not sure about exact numbers.

yea I think a lot of the reason her win rate isn't bad is because she's played a lot less and therefore people don't have as much experience against her. I think a large part of why it gets lower as her level rises because they learn as the game progresses XD, but mostly because every minute the game progresses she get's easier to kill.

You are correct in saying her solo lane would be nerfed, but it would also be buffed later game so it's basically an equal trade there.

thanks for you're input.

DontDieRespawnMar 26, 20151 votes

I took her mid for a year straight, that plant has a massive team fight kit.

DontDieRespawnMar 26, 20151 votes

I dare someone to focus my Zyra, simple reason. item 3116 Constant cc with shooting plants. item 3151 Doesn't need much explanation. item 3089 That has to hurt. item 3157 Oh cute you dove on top of me, deal with my ult while I get peel. item 3165 This is a cute fight, watch my plants melt hp... time to ult. Honestly, when I am Zyra I am the last the B. Oh and when I am killed I tend to say, "Passive aggressive." when I kill someone straight after, wrong plant to focus. Her ult with 2-3 plants down adding these two items item 3116 item 3165 alone make her scary as hell.