"Since you guys don't like RNG"

DropFill·Nov 1, 2015·162 votes·6,695 views

" We are going to put critical chance at all items, so ADC's have close to 100% critical chance. Since they will crit every AA , crit is no longer a RNG stat." Rito 2015

123 Comments

SEKAINov 1, 201547 votes

Finally Yasuo would be closer to balanced because he only has 1 passive now.

The Yetii RiderNov 1, 201518 votes

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Finally Yasuo would be closer to balanced because he only has 1 passive now.

Nah, he still has 2 passives. Shield and 10% less damage from crits.

DropFillNov 1, 20155 votes

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Finally Yasuo would be closer to balanced because he only has 1 passive now.

He is actually going to be more broken than ever with new masteries

SEKAINov 1, 20153 votes

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He is actually going to be more broken than ever with new masteries

Is that so? Dang.

junglerboy16Nov 1, 20155 votes

yup, free 15% lifesteal off of all critical attacks courtasy of the new masteries!

Auz the RipperNov 1, 20151 votes

I wonder how that mastery works with anivia....

DropFillNov 1, 20154 votes

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I wonder how that mastery works with anivia....

She is a mage It will probably not work because fuck mages

junglerboy16Nov 1, 20151 votes

Technically E's double damage is coded as a critical strike for the purposes of Crit damage reduction (there was a long dialogue about this when Randuin's got Crit damage reduction added as a stat, and also people noticed it being effected by the -crit damage mastery), so I don't see how it wouldn't be coded as a crit for the purpose of this mastery as well.

Actually xPekeNov 1, 20153 votes

If it wouldnt count for crit with Anivia E, than they should remove the interaction with randuins too. otherwise riot hypocrite

IcyPepperNov 1, 20154 votes

I mean, I understand it's going to be broken on him, but calling it "free" would be the same as calling all the other masteries free. There's plenty of broken-ish masteries at the moment.

shrugs

junglerboy16Nov 1, 20154 votes

Free as opposed to investing 675 gold into lifesteal of an equivalent value via in game items.

Of course it requires choosing that mastery, and it's not like nobody else can utilize it, it is just exceptionally good for him (not to forget other champs who would abuse it more, like Fiora, Tryndamere, Shaco, etc.)

yay nibbersNov 1, 20153 votes

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Free as opposed to investing ~~675~~ 1800 gold into lifesteal of an equivalent value via in game items.

Fixed that for you.

Of course it requires choosing that mastery, and it's not like nobody else can utilize it, it is just exceptionally good for him (not to forget other champs who would abuse it more, like Fiora, Tryndamere, Shaco, etc.)

It's so easy for ADCs to get 100% crit now though. So yes, there's tons of other champions who can use it. Not to mention Yasuo himself does less damage on crits than anyone else in the game thanks to his passive reducing the damage of his crits. But lets not forget that choosing that mastery means you can't choose the mastery that gives you up to 80 extra damage on-hit in the lategame (which would benefit Yasuo or anyone else who autos a lot greatly), or the mastery that burns your opponent for a percent of your bonus AD and total AP.

T RexHasTinyArmsNov 1, 20152 votes

I think the bonus on hit damage is going to be stronger on champions that have on hit builds for hybrid damage than on ADCs or something. I'm thinking probably Teemo Jax Olaf top get a lot from it and top/sated jg XinZhao Warwick Udyr Trundle Shyvana Shaco MasterYi get good use. Maybe Jayce or KogMaw use it bc the first doesn't build early crit top/mid, but has the 100% attack speed to make it decent burst if he gets it stacked through poke then uses the steroid to chunk his opponent and the second gets 5 autos per second w/ reduced AD (so less heal, more value for on hit) and when he does that he will be sort of stuck w/ his position bc he hit so fast he can't auto move and use the AS so initial positioning and the team protect while he just shreds everything will be more important than sustaining and kiting (if he's not protected he'll be bursted and heal won't matter). 400 bonus damage per second on kog doesn't sound like a huge amount though given how much his autos will do already, but I think it might be more valuable than the heal.

T RexHasTinyArmsNov 1, 20152 votes

The 1-8 bonus damage on autos that stacks 10 times.... sated jg all say thank you. Yeah BOTRK is nerfed, but 2 autos will give 18% hp damage, 48-240 damage from mastery at max level, 150 from devourer, plus any kit abilities. If shyvana can land her e on targets in dragon form, her Q will instantly proc 7.5% max hp magic damage, 150 magic damage, 18% current hp physical damage, 2 autos each +100% ad physical damage, plus 48-240 magic physical damage from the mastery..... IN A LINE. That's 25% hp plus what, 400 damage minimum (200 from on hits, plus another 200 in autos+the bonus ad maybe) in hybrid damage? Line up 2-3 champs who you hit w/ the cone E and that's a pretty big chunk of damage from Q considering you probably auto, q, auto the first champ in the line so they take that twice.

yay nibbersNov 1, 20151 votes

So you mean he'll actually be broken now? I doubt it. That one single keystone mastery has a 2 second cooldown you know.

DropFillNov 1, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ron Pitts,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hvzmt2pv,comment-id=000200010001,timestamp=2015-11-01T18:06:30.010+0000)

So you mean he'll actually be broken now? I doubt it. That one single keystone mastery has a 2 second cooldown you know.

More broken than he already is. The nerf to zhonyas will just make sure he will stomp mid lane more than ever.

HAIL WHYDRANov 1, 20153 votes

I like how everyone is complaing about Yasuo being broken, when you have Graves and Quinn just being obnoxious. Graves will shred almost any melee. Ive seen a graves 1v1 a darius

yay nibbersNov 1, 20152 votes

I was on the PBE with my friend the other day and I two-shot him as Graves. We happened upon each other, him coming out of a bush I was beside and I didn't even realize right away, Graves just started auto-attacking because that's what your champion does when there's any in range (unless you turn that off) and before I knew it he was dead and I was reloading.

LeeDarkNov 1, 20152 votes

Shotgun to the face hurts... imagine that.

TeCoolMageNov 1, 201522 votes

Next up: ability crit items

Gj rito gg

Ancestor007Nov 1, 20157 votes

TwistedFate yes please

AxxlonNov 1, 20153 votes

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yes please

I don't even wanna think about using TF in the preseason. And this is coming from a TF main. Like good lord... -.-

Diananmen SquareNov 1, 201517 votes

Anivia Critting a crit.

BorblandNov 1, 20155 votes

Crtiception.

Also, I imagine Veigar having a crit with his ult. Or Karthus .

Ancestor007Nov 1, 20153 votes

It's over 9000

TheRakkunNov 1, 20158 votes

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Next up: ability crit items

Gj rito gg

Azir Bird Noises Intensify Anivia

TotalJerkNov 1, 20153 votes

Poppy : Ability crit, you say?

Irelia BotNov 1, 201514 votes

Can we have thornmail randomly crit and return 100% of all damage before reductions?

Pool Party NasusNov 1, 201512 votes

If everything is broken, nothing is broken!

Mickey DonnerudoNov 1, 20154 votes

that's how Dota 2 works

LeeDarkNov 1, 20152 votes

No, it isn't.

KensueNov 2, 20151 votes

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ZephyrDrakeNov 2, 20152 votes

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It's actually more fast paced and fun though :)

fun is a subjective thing

SKOBODONov 1, 20159 votes

And some bruisers will build Trinity Force and get a 20% crit chance.

I dislike Ashe getting increased slow based on crit. That could make for some really RNG-moments, where one auto grants her a massive slow that gets her a kill.

The Yetii RiderNov 1, 20152 votes

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And some bruisers will build Trinity Force and get a 20% crit chance.

I dislike Ashe getting increased slow based on crit. That could make for some really RNG-moments, where one auto grants her a massive slow that gets her a kill.

It's just like old Phage!

SKOBODONov 1, 20152 votes

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It's just like old Phage!

That was what I thought too! And old Phage was pretty terrible, it did not feel good to get killed just because Ezreal was lucky with one Phage proc on Q.

LuciferNov 1, 20157 votes

Also your crits now heal! And grant you attack speed! BECAUSE REASONS (:

The Yetii RiderNov 1, 20153 votes

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Also your crits now heal! And grant you attack speed! BECAUSE REASONS (:

Crits grant attack speed in the S5 mastery tree, it's nothing new.

LuciferNov 1, 20156 votes

Yah, but you actually needed a lot to get that attack speed this season. Next season, it's like fucking Oprah hit summoner's rift.

KhaZix BotNov 1, 20156 votes

Took me longer than it should have to realize this wasn't about Renegades.

ZephyrDrakeNov 1, 20156 votes

let's not forget about the crit heals from the masteries

Tis a nice dayNov 1, 20154 votes

I still feel they could replace that crit mastery with something much more universally useful and that doesn't overly favor a select pool of champs Tryndamere Yasuo

Silents429Nov 1, 20151 votes

Pretty sure it only works every 4 seconds, not really a big deal.

ZephyrDrakeNov 1, 20152 votes

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Pretty sure it only works every 4 seconds, not really a big deal.

it's another thing that is reliant on RNG

Silents429Nov 1, 20151 votes

And what is wrong with RNG all the sudden?

ZephyrDrakeNov 1, 20152 votes

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And what is wrong with RNG all the sudden?

read the title of the thread, read the post of the thread, now read my first comment...

Pale PirateNov 1, 20155 votes

This could be absolutely stupid... Or incredibly brilliant.

But I don't think it's going to go this way.

SaphixiaNov 1, 20152 votes

all randuins garen = -60% damage on crits, is going to be basiclly the meta Tankwith 6 randuins/ assassin top bruiser/tank jungle yasuo/zed mid 6 Randuins tank supp/ashe any random adc i think i figured out the easy balanced and effective meta But seriously to many items with crit