An in depth guide on how to defeat new Garen and the Villain mini game

HateDaddy··92 votes·5,571 views

For starters, it's imperative you coordinate efforts with your team to be able to be successful against new Garen. It's a 5 man effort but this is actually a pretty easy method as it requires little communication, just a basic understanding from all of your teammates at the start of the game.

Okay, so as a top laner: this is what you do.

Start the game with d-blade or d-ring depending on your class, you shouldn't be afraid of Garen now, every champion can be successful against him now, especially with this approach. Wait to see what he levels first, some Garens level Q for the MS boost and level 1 harass, some E for the pushing power, even though it's pretty weak. Regardless, fear not, it's not Garens level 1, 2 or 3 we are worried about - it's his level 4. It's important to understand this, by the time he's six, you're going to want your jungler.

Also, before I explain, don't start a camp and teleport back in at the beginning of the game, it's not necessary. So once Garen hits 4 and your jungler understands it's mandatory to be up there at level 6, all-in Garen and then just stop attacking him alltogther and die to him. This will give him a level 5, and by the time you respawn and port back, he should be close to 6. When he's 6, tell your jungler to go in and both of you suicide to him, giving him kills but not giving him double buffs because you don't want him getting free kills with double buffs.

Bot lane and mid: same for you, just keep dying as much as possible and anytime you recall, go top and die to Garen. Give him all the kills.

This reverts him back to old Garen, nobody can be a villain! And eventually, he's going to have so many kills that he realizes he's a bad person and he becomes the villain himself. After this point, he will literally start stabbing himself to death to cleanse himself of the evil inside of him, and he will continue to do this in fountain until someone kills him on the enemy team. At this point, Garen has taken a leave of absence from the game to get his head right, force 5v4s and win the game.

I understand this is a really tough strat to execute but it works with just a little coordination and cooperation.

Thanks for the read again, glad I could take the time to give you valuable information and high level strategies. Best of luck on the field of justice, summoners.

50 Comments

IcyPepper75 votes

So he either dies a hero, or lives long enough to become the villain...

HateDaddy39 votes

{quoted}

So he either dies a hero, or lives long enough to become the villain...

VasilisGreen1 votes

Awwww

shadecrapper1 votes

Thats deep...

Azteryz4 votes

cant believe the dark knight stole this line from you

Wizardavar2 votes

Madoka Magica. MagicalGirlGaren

Blastires1 votes

OMG DUDE I was thinking about that too.

Chaotic Reks1 votes

slow clap

NemeBro31 votes

What if the Garen outplays you by taking your all in, ignoring you, and then walking into your turret to force you to get a kill on him, thus making you the villain?

HateDaddy52 votes

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What if the Garen outplays you by taking your all in, ignoring you, and then walking into your turret to force you to get a kill on him, thus making you the villain?

Disconnect and send riot a ticket claiming your internet failed

Blame your nets instability on the server transfer, claim you're from the Congo or something. If they ban you, they're admitting to being bad people too and Garen will find them

Alëk1 votes

Brodie said the Congo lmfaoooooooo. my sides

WhiskerWow10 votes

Lol, I don't even have to tell my team to do this strat.

TheVishual8 votes

How to beat old and new garen:

Play any ranged top, don't be a nooblord and orbwalk while you harass and zone his melee ass

Laugh as they made him less tanky early and lowered the MS buff on his Q until he skills it later

Congrats you won top lane

HateDaddy13 votes

{quoted}

How to beat old and new garen:

Play any ranged top, don't be a nooblord and orbwalk while you harass and zone his melee ass

Laugh as they made him less tanky early and lowered the MS buff on his Q until he skills it later

Congrats you won top lane

Congrats you're the villain, enjoy your true damage

DeusVult9 votes

He is never going to touch you if you are Quinn Vayne Jayce Teemo

whats the opposite of true damage? no damage

revliledpembroke11 votes

Oh, I've played Garen and touched Teemo before.....ohhhhh yes.

Timewinder2 votes

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Vivid Mandala1 votes

Somebody's in love Teemo <3Garen

revliledpembroke1 votes

Of course. It's always been rough early, when Teemo thinks he can have his way with me. I play hard to get until I can rape him in the ass with JUSTICE!

Sulghunter1 votes

Quinn's E lets Garen whack her with a Q strike.

Mistress Madoka4 votes

I hate to say it but Teemo Really doesn't counter Garen very well. Any smart Garen will annihilate Teemo, And he won't even need to be the Villain for that.

Adrian Umbra2 votes

Just want to remark that I've beaten a Vayne top as new Garen. And before anyone tells me that it must have been a Bronzie, the dude was Plat 5. Didn't win by much, but ensured that he wouldn't make a big impact in the game, delayed his scaling, and snowballed the map.

I went all-in at odd times, pushed lane hard, backed off when he engaged his ultimate (and wasn't low), abused my passive, and just was a general dick to him.

Alphadef1 votes

If you don't let him touch you 0 true damage is the same as 0 physical damage

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

It's also the same as 0 magic damage.

IcyPepper4 votes

It's the same as 0 pure damage too!

Alphadef1 votes

Rip dfgaren

Tim is fire1 votes

I will remember you~

AHeroNamedHawke7 votes

Thank you for this in depth explanation of Garen's counterplay

HateDaddy4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Charles Barklius,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hrMihWx0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-08-26T23:46:56.239+0000)

Thank you for this in depth explanation of Garen's counterplay

You're welcome, Chuck.

Erijian7 votes

"What WE do is right!"

That's a line Garen has; he believes whatever Demacia does is right. He can't ever be the villain in his eyes as his actions are always true justice. Nice try, you obvious Villain.

Mistress Madoka1 votes

You get my upvote for being correct, but realise that it's a joke about his gameplay, not his personality.

Lexy Kitten5 votes

At first I thought you were serious. Then I thought you were serious but insane at the first mention of intentionally dying. Then I got the joke. A good laugh.

HateDaddy10 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lexy Kitten,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hrMihWx0,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-08-27T01:02:56.750+0000)

At first I thought you were serious. Then I thought you were serious but insane at the first mention of intentionally dying. Then I got the joke. A good laugh.

Who's joking?

Prospector Pete4 votes

But what if the Garen is stubborn and doesn't want to stab himself?

HateDaddy4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Prospector Pete,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hrMihWx0,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-08-26T23:49:16.338+0000)

But what if the Garen is stubborn and doesn't want to stab himself?

He doesn't have a choice, he's the real bad guy here

Prospector Pete1 votes

But what if they're a scripter?

HateDaddy7 votes

[{quoted}](name=Prospector Pete,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hrMihWx0,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2015-08-26T23:54:23.612+0000)

But what if they're a scripter?

people need to script on Garen?

ParaBellam12 votes

Of course, what if the other team pinks his E and dodges his ult?

AMYS GRAVE5 votes

Garen's morality will overwrite the scripts, and notify riot for banning purposes.

Hullabaloo9073 votes

im pretty sure he just spins right through your srceen and ults you

VasilisGreen2 votes

It worked!!! It really worked!!! Thank you for this guide man, i am now challenjour and alway win vs a garen!! Thank you!!!

TaoistMaster2 votes

You newbs.

I've been dying to Garen for years.

Enosetc1 votes

nice try HateDaddy

we all know what you're trying to do here and it won't work!

everyone knows you have to give your allied teemo all the kills

Ace Access 1 votes

here's a question, what if I ward all the entry point for your jungler and run back the moment he step in my wards, I do this quite a lot

Toa of Death1 votes

I thought this was serious lol. You got me.

Hyrum Graff1 votes

RIP Garen 2015. He was an hero.

Jarrito2321 votes

Riot: Ok guys we have some new Garen changes here are his new stats! Community: What. The. FUCK! You can't put Garen out like this! You absolutely gutted him! FFS BALANCE TEAM. Riot: Ok sorry about that. We will listen to the community this time and buff Garen. Community: There. That's perfect.

Patch 5.16 drops

Community: What. The. FUCK! Why is Garen so fucking OP!? Man this fucking balance team ammiright? laff trak

chipi991 votes

Gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8 -ign

Sageace1 votes

In other words... the Villain Mechanic is flawed?

He has turned himself into the "Villain".

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