A) no he didn't
B) why'd you let him build fury?
C) why'd you fight him when he had full fury?
D) the quadratic equation states that you take -b +/- the square root of b^2 - 4(a)(c) divided by 2(a). Understanding this, why did you let tyrndamere build fury at level 1? Unless you're nasus, denying trynd fury is a realistic option.
Eedat5 votesA) no he didn't
Yes he can. Unlikely, but he can.
B) why'd you let him build fury?
you can't stop someone from autoattacking 100% of the time
C) why'd you fight him when he had full fury?
Because hes capable of starting the fight even if you dont want to
D) the quadratic equation states that
Completely unrelated dribble. Cheap attempt at a smokescreen with numbers
Mecha MaIphite3 votesCompletely unrelated dribble. Cheap attempt at a smokescreen with numbers
pretty sure that one was a joke
HateDaddy1 votes[{quoted}](name=Mecha MaIphite,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hqOoK16q,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-03-30T23:24:02.482+0000)
pretty sure that one was a joke
I'm glad someone has some sense left round here
Ralanr1 votesIt either flourishes or decays horribly here.
HateDaddy1 votesYes he can. Unlikely, but he can.
Very unlikely and in the event this happens, you fucked up big time.
you can't stop someone from autoattacking 100% of the time
Yes, you can. You poke/jab/fight him when he attempts to AA minions or last hit. He picks between eating harass for free or being zoned. In both cases, he loses. Trynds early levels are not that good, it's his later levels where he starts getting silly.
Because hes capable of starting the fight even if you dont want to
How? Lol you walk away. If he chases you to fight you through a creep wave, he's going to lose that fight early.
Completely unrelated dribble. Cheap attempt at a smokescreen with numbers
Someone doesn't like algebra
Yaśuo Main1 votesWhat if,
A) He hits a minion 2 times, then E's on me.
B) W's me to reduce my punish on him
C) W E then AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA Q
HateDaddy1 votes[{quoted}](name=Yaśuo Main,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hqOoK16q,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-03-30T23:24:06.387+0000)
What if,
A) He hits a minion 2 times, then E's on me.
B) W's me to reduce my punish on him
C) W E then AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA AA Q
You're yasuo so I don't feel bad
Most bruisers/top laners will punish him for trying to hit minions in the first place
Yaśuo Main1 voteswut
Most bruisers/top laners will punish him for trying to hit minions in the first place
Yeah, that's the problem. This champion is useless on one matchup and godly on the other. AP Shaco E compared to AD Shaco E.
HateDaddy1 votes[{quoted}](name=Yaśuo Main,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hqOoK16q,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-03-30T23:32:12.951+0000)
wut
Most bruisers/top laners will punish him for trying to hit minions in the first place
Yeah, that's the problem. This champion is useless on one matchup and godly on the other. AP Shaco E compared to AD Shaco E.
Hey man, I didn't say he was well designed
BlackFlux1 votesE:mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.
TyrekGoldenspear1 votesWell with a post like this you just gave Akali is SO HOT ammo when you try to discipline him on his posting habits.
Big Lincoln1 votes>defending Tryndamere
dad u know i love you but this is dicey not spicy
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HateDaddy1 votes[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hqOoK16q,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-03-30T23:30:55.668+0000)
>defending Tryndamere
dad u know i love you but this is dicey not spicy
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I don't pretend tryndamere is well designed but the "I got crit 3 times in a row at level -16" crowd is unbearable. Trynds early game is not what should be complained about.
Big Lincoln1 votesi only get mad cos he feels like one giant cheesy shit when his only lane pattern is to farm up fury (if he can) and then E onto me and hope he gets a crit or 2 and then pop ignite and try to run me down
but I've started playing 
into him and sitting on my minion wave so he never gets to play the game without his jungler setting up tent
HateDaddy1 votes[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hqOoK16q,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2017-03-30T23:36:14.117+0000)
i only get mad cos he feels like one giant cheesy shit when his only lane pattern is to farm up fury (if he can) and then E onto me and hope he gets a crit or 2 and then pop ignite and try to run me down
but I've started playing
Yeah, I think he's a terribly designed champion and his path of inevitability is rather unhealthy. But he is exploitable early and there are some options in dealing with him. That's why it's important to consider these facts, because we drown the truth with a lot of false truths often and this leads to skewed beliefs and unfounded hate/circlejerking. And that leads to poor discussion quality full of ad hominem, red herring, oversimplifications etc
PermabannedGaren1 votesA) no he didn't
B) why'd you let him build fury?
C) why'd you fight him when he had full fury?
D) the quadratic equation states that you take -b +/- the square root of b^2 - 4(a)(c) divided by 2(a). Understanding this, why did you let tyrndamere build fury at level 1? Unless you're nasus, denying trynd fury is a realistic option.
I really don't know why you're trying to sit here and pretend that shitting on Tryndamere in lane so he can't build any fury is some simple matter that anyone can do. If it was, BoxerPete wouldn't dunk on players much better than you in challenger with Tryndamere (he isn't challenger now but he was last season and is currently Diamond 1 with a 59% win rate, 60% win rate on Tryndamere). And yes, he does tend to dunk on them in lane, not later in the game, because Tryndamere's scaling is among the most overrated in the game.
I mean, Tryndamere is hardly OP, but his laning pattern is pretty bullshit.
And Tryndamere is one of my most-played champions. There's no bias here friend.
HateDaddy1 votesI really don't know why you're trying to sit here and pretend that shitting on Tryndamere in lane so he can't build any fury is some simple matter that anyone can do. If it was, BoxerPete wouldn't dunk on players much better than you in challenger with Tryndamere (he isn't challenger now but he was last season and is currently Diamond 1 with a 59% win rate, 60% win rate on Tryndamere). And yes, he does tend to dunk on them in lane, not later in the game, because Tryndamere's scaling is among the most overrated in the game.
As much as I love Boxerpete, he spends more time shitting on low diamond players than anything else. In his masters/challenger games, his lanes are often decided by junglers as much lanes are at that elo. He rarely cheeses players early in those elos.
Dealing with him early as most bruisers/tanks usually is that straight forward. As I stated, it's his later levels that make him bullshit.
I mean, Tryndamere is hardly OP, but his laning pattern is pretty bullshit.
I'm not disagreeing with that, im merely saying that getting cheesed by him early is often the fault of his opponent, not something tryndamere innately does.
And Tryndamere is one of my most-played champions. There's no bias here friend.
Never thought there was homie
PermabannedGaren1 votesAs much as I love Boxerpete, he spends more time shitting on low diamond players than anything else. In his masters/challenger games, his lanes are often decided by junglers as much lanes are at that elo. He rarely cheeses players early in those elos.
I recall him killing both AdrianRiven and Dekar in the early levels solo, both challenger players (at least I think Dekar is?). Though I don't watch any stream regularly so I'll admit I might be wrong about that.
Dealing with him early as most bruisers/tanks usually is that straight forward. As I stated, it's his later levels that make him bullshit.
I don't know friend, Tryndamere can often win trades even with partial fury simply because the fury he built in the trade lets him sustain. Even if he can't all-in cheese, he can wittle laning opponents down for a kill or a forced back.
Though admittedly some of my opinion could be colored by the fact that Tryndamere almost always takes ignite, whereas his laning opponent tends to run TP. This could give him a big advantage independent of Tryndamere himself.
I'm not disagreeing with that, im merely saying that getting cheesed by him early is often the fault of his opponent, not something tryndamere innately does.
I suppose that's true, cheese by definition is the fault of the opponent, though capitalizing on mistakes is the name of this game. Even the best players make mistakes, as seen when Faker playing Malzahar somehow let Yassuo solo kill him in lane four times.
Never thought there was homie
But some might. All too often people try to shut down posts with accusations of bias, though more typically with accusations that you play a champion you're defending.
HateDaddy1 votesI recall him killing both AdrianRiven and Dekar in the early levels solo, both challenger players (at least I think Dekar is?). Though I don't watch any stream regularly so I'll admit I might be wrong about that.
Yeah, two players who rely on cheesing themselves fairly consistently. Like I said, he tends to not cheese to victory in high elo but in lower elo he does. I watch his stream pretty regularly. Dudes hilarious.
I don't know friend, Tryndamere can often win trades even with partial fury simply because the fury he built in the trade lets him sustain. Even if he can't all-in cheese, he can wittle laning opponents down for a kill or a forced back.
Yeah, I think his laning pattern of outlasting is pretty bullshit in combination with his all-in potential on his grounds but his early cheese is not what is problem is as a champion. It's hardly even in the discussion imo.
Though admittedly some of my opinion could be colored by the fact that Tryndamere almost always takes ignite, whereas his laning opponent tends to run TP. This could give him a big advantage independent of Tryndamere himself.
Ignite does definitely lend its user a big advantage in lane but obviously teleport is the safer spell as it gives access to global pressure and safer general laning.
I suppose that's true, cheese by definition is the fault of the opponent, though capitalizing on mistakes is the name of this game. Even the best players make mistakes, as seen when Faker playing Malzahar somehow let Yassuo solo kill him in lane four times.
But some might. All too often people try to shut down posts with accusations of bias, though more typically with accusations that you play a champion you're defending.
shurgs
I try to make myself pretty clear with detailed oriented posts but I'm also open to explaining my reasoning to avoid this exact phenomenon.
Sohleks1 votesAnd that's why I play my Tryndamere in the jungle. PvE until you buy some daggers ghost ult into lanes for free kills without the skill of laning xd !
l Dárius l1 votesA) no he didn't
B) why'd you let him build fury?
C) why'd you fight him when he had full fury?
D) the quadratic equation states that you take -b +/- the square root of b^2 - 4(a)(c) divided by 2(a). Understanding this, why did you let tyrndamere build fury at level 1? Unless you're nasus, denying trynd fury is a realistic option.
A) yeah, he probably did. why is there reason to lie about it
B) because someone was probably trying to get the first minion wave last hits
C) good point
D) whatever this is its retarded
