So yea Ashe is definitely going to get nerfed within the next few patches

FalconPawwwwnch·May 28, 2015·2 votes·651 views

I'd be really shocked if she doesn't get nerfed, especially since Jinx just got hit

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Darth ValerMay 28, 20152 votes

Immobile champs deserve to be overloaded as fuck. summoner 14

FalconPawwwwnchMay 28, 20152 votes

You realize it's all Ashe's fault that mobility creep even happened right

Because Riot thought a permaslow would be good for the game in the longrun

ModKnightsKemplarMay 28, 20151 votes

Mm... disagree. But I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple nerfs on her. Personally, I think her laning phase is still weak enough that she doesn't need it, but I have no problem being disagreed with about that.

FalconPawwwwnchMay 28, 20151 votes

Lol? you can't disagree with facts. I'm not stating my opinion here, I'm literally reading off patch notes

The reason Riot made Irelia/Lee Sin/Jarvan etc in Season 1 was to deal with Ashe. That's how this all started.

ModKnightsKemplarMay 29, 20151 votes

You can'y blame 3 champs for "mobility creep." That's three champs; no bearing on now. Influence? Maybe. Blame entirely? No. Not a fact, sir or madame.

Old Man TeetoMay 29, 20151 votes

He's actually correct. Originally, Ashe was a safe laning ADC who invalidated every melee without powerful gap closers.

In order to reduce Ashe's mid/late game safety and that of other champions being played which were immobile, they created several bruisers back to back designed to counter them.

Maokai, Nocturne, Jarvan, Lee Sin, Renekton all released towards the beginning of 2011 so there were more than Xin Zhao and Irelia who could get to ADC's while being a threat to them (who were released first and nerfed INSANELY due to their kits being designed to destroy immobile champion).

Towards the end of that year we got Leona, Wukong, Fizz, Riven and Talon all designed to get onto an immobile champion and punish them.

GuardDXMay 28, 20152 votes

I feel like she'll be left as is. Ashe doesn't have that clean up and AoE potential that Jinx has.

LuggMay 28, 20152 votes

Her new kit is great. Riot may have to tweek it a bit but I don't think she needs any major work.

ZyorhistMay 28, 20151 votes

She isn't as strong as a lot of people make her out to be. I am an adc main and find myself doing better with my graves and mf than ashe. I will say she is strong but she definitely has her weaknesses too. I actually see a small buff coming for her.

coeurloyalMay 28, 20151 votes

I agree. On paper and in practices she seemed incredibly powerful, but I didn't feel like most of that power translated over to actual matches. I think she's in a rather good place as far as immobile champs go.

phatcat09May 28, 20151 votes

Her Q Pump has helped her shred single targets faster than before, which has actually just made her more competitive not overpowered. Her dueling ability has gone up significantly. Before point blank stunning and trying to duel anyone was almost suicide now with Q/Yumuu double pop she can stand tank through attacks with even only 15% life steal. Something that was much harder before. As opposed to just being opportunistic she's more reliable.

ZyorhistMay 29, 20151 votes

I would agree that she has some pretty good single target focus. The problem that I see with her that is easy to exploit is her lack of mobility. Even MF can exploit this with her passive, and her e. Ashe cant do much about it and therefore has to fight instead. That being said I think Ashe is much better off with her current setup and I hope to see her become more balanced in the near future. As I stated before I believe she could use a little bit of a buff, not a big one.

HexSketchMay 28, 20151 votes

i dont think so, jinx got hit because she has been dominating the scene since her release, and with the nerf of the former powerhouses she shined bright.

Ashe remains ever the decent adc, she got some bonuses to her auto attack damage which is her only real change, dont think it was big enough a change for them to randomly nerf her.

ErockandrollMay 28, 20151 votes

She's not really Overpowered, nor Oppressive, She's strong because of her Utility, which made her a good pick in the LCS. I don't think riot will nerf her just because of that.

Old Man TeetoMay 29, 20151 votes

Ashe was given hyper carry level damage without losing her insane utility kit.

This rework is equivalent to back when Alistar was able to 100-0 burst while tanking 5 people.

Champions with insane utility strengths can't also being top tier damage.