Oh yea, nasus is broken with this new buff

D357R0Y3R··8 votes·5,241 views

https://i.gyazo.com/5355e11eb6ebe05c2aecd18ed394a1f3.png

48% win rate in plat+

+6 stacks on canon minion, who would have thought that this buff made nasus immune to kiting, immune to comps like kindred+ranged toplaner, immune to janna and braum, and immune to LUCIAN.

Nasus is broken, riot nerf him please I can't kite him anymore

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FOR JUSTICE1 votes

to be fair we're only like a day into the new patch, cant say hes balanced or broke until at least 5 days.

cause using this same logic you can say the same for vayne who is at ~49.22%

Daddy Ants1 votes

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to be fair we're only like a day into the new patch, cant say hes balanced or broke until at least 5 days.

cause using this same logic you can say the same for vayne who is at ~49.22%

Indeed.

People forget with Vayne that more people are playing her to "try out" the buff.

Hence why her play rate doubled.

I said the same thing on r/VayneMains discord server.

"Wait until at least a week into the patch when all the "tryouts" go back to their mains"

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Indeed.

People forget with Vayne that more people are playing her to "try out" the buff.

Hence why her play rate doubled.

I said the same thing on r/VayneMains discord server.

"Wait until at least a week into the patch when all the "tryouts" go back to their mains"

she has 54% winrate. do you understand how insane that is with meta sheep who have never played her jumping onto her?

vayne is actually broken because of the buff.

nasus is just broken on paper and still gets kited in reality.

PhearBunny1 votes

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she has 54% winrate. do you understand how insane that is with meta sheep who have never played her jumping onto her?

vayne is actually broken because of the buff.

nasus is just broken on paper and still gets kited in reality.

unless you play melee champs and assassins, in which case you just get hit once and die. Nothing has really changed.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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unless you play melee champs and assassins, in which case you just get hit once and die. Nothing has really changed.

if nothing has changed, why did she jump to 54% winrate?

you cant assassinate what you cant see. shes broken dude.

PhearBunny1 votes

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if nothing has changed, why did she jump to 54% winrate?

you cant assassinate what you cant see. shes broken dude.

clearly referring to Nasus...

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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clearly referring to Nasus...

nvm srry.

FOR JUSTICE1 votes

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if nothing has changed, why did she jump to 54% winrate?

you cant assassinate what you cant see. shes broken dude.

im not seeing this, can i see a source please?

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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im not seeing this, can i see a source please?

it jumped extremely high yesterday. currently its shown as 58% globally on lolalytics between today and tomorrow.

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Vayne/ADC/

either way, the extremely high pick rate and notable above 50% winrate already shows that they went way overboard, like anyone could have guessed.

D357R0Y3R1 votes

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she has 54% winrate.

SHE DOES NOT ok?

go to lolalytics and check the refreshed data

Daddy Ants1 votes

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she has 54% winrate. do you understand how insane that is with meta sheep who have never played her jumping onto her?

vayne is actually broken because of the buff.

nasus is just broken on paper and still gets kited in reality.

Show me this 54% win rate because not a single stat site I've been to confirms what you're saying.

https://u.gg/lol/champions/vayne/build/

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/9.1/platinum/plus/champion/Vayne/

I don't see anything close to a 54%.

Come again with a valid argument.

FOR JUSTICE1 votes

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Show me this 54% win rate because not a single stat site I've been to confirms what you're saying.

https://u.gg/lol/champions/vayne/build/

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/9.1/platinum/plus/champion/Vayne/

https://champion.gg/champion/Vayne/ADC

http://www.op.gg/champion/vayne/statistics/bot

I don't see anything close to a 54%.

Come again with a valid argument.

he posted his own thread, and its using data from january 11 despite us being on the tenth, the only people on the 11 are in like, australia and some parts of asia.

edit: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/LaiOMHhr-vayne-at-58-winrate-25-pick-rate

Daddy Ants1 votes

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he posted his own thread, and its using data from january 11 despite us being on the tenth, the only people on the 11 are in like, australia and some parts of asia.

edit: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/LaiOMHhr-vayne-at-58-winrate-25-pick-rate

How can a stats website know the data for a day ahead though?

Surely thats an estimate, right?

FOR JUSTICE1 votes

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How can a stats website know the data for a day ahead though?

Surely thats an estimate, right?

not every one is on the same date, cause time zones. today is the tenth, but the data he used was taken on a global basis, so therefore its skewed because not everyone is on the 11.

Daddy Ants1 votes

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not every one is on the same date, cause time zones. today is the tenth, but the data he used was taken on a global basis, so therefore its skewed because not everyone is on the 11.

Yeah and the sad thing is...

Boards use that skewed data as a foundation for their biased arguments.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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not every one is on the same date, cause time zones. today is the tenth, but the data he used was taken on a global basis, so therefore its skewed because not everyone is on the 11.

it doesnt treat the data as if its from the 11th.

it shows the timeframe from 10th towards the 11th, even if thats only been a couple of hours.

so this is the data from the games today so far.

Myrmiron1 votes

Works wonders vs a team of all melees, hehe. :P https://i.imgur.com/jax3gK1.png[] Had something like 500 stacks at 20 minutes with a hard losing bot lane (Lee camped them).

Poske1 votes

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Works wonders vs a team of all melees, hehe. :P https://i.imgur.com/jax3gK1.png[] Had something like 500 stacks at 20 minutes with a hard losing bot lane (Lee camped them).

Do you know what else works wonders vs a team of all melees? Every juggernaut

And evne then every juggernaut is outclassed by ranged overlords who are better off in a full melee comps

Daddy Ants1 votes

I don't get why mods don't delete pointless shitposts like this.

No real evidence to backup their claims, just pure bias.

Geriffith1 votes

I have to admit he is busted. I got done playing a game of ranked against a conq nasus. I died at 8 mins because he ult withered me and proceeded to q me twice as I died. We surrendered at 15 because I was not the only one doing bad. Played irelia that game, but I planned on playing nasus tbh.

I thought conq would be bad early, but nasus q stacks compensate for the low damage.

Illabethe1 votes

Again..... Just because "Win rate" doesn't show evidence of a champ being strong, you DO have to take into account every game is a 5 champion game, which dampens the impact of one champion when reflected in winning stats.

Nasus isn't a champion that necessarily will force a high win rate even when broken, simply because he's in a unique position: Keep pushing and stacking, or stop stacking and contribute to a team. Most will keep stacking solo, and even if they can 1v3 or 1v4, they still get delayed in doing their job, nearly every time they reach a turret. So, is he not broken because he was able to 1v3 or 1v4 the other team? Or is he not broken because he wasn't able to both 1v3/1v4 AND take the turret he was after?

He's a toxic champion who can 1v3/1v4. The only thing holding back his win rate is his TEAMS. 50% of his games his bot lane will feed. 50% of his games his Mid will lose. 50% of his games his jungler won't have a significant impact.

The question you should be asking: Should 1 champ be able to 1v1 ANY OTHER CHAMP IN THE GAME and win all those matchups? The buff has effectively removed almost all Nasus lane counters.

D357R0Y3R1 votes

idc, when broken and needed nerfs Nasus always had 53/54% win rate

his current win rate is dogshit, if you lost to him it was your fault

Illabethe1 votes

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idc, when broken and needed nerfs Nasus always had 53/54% win rate

his current win rate is dogshit, if you lost to him it was your fault

lol..... You do realize Nasus has not been nerfed in years? Season 7 they added the 50% reduced Q cooldown to him as well as increasing his Large target stacks. Season 8 they increased the impact of his Wither and the Armor Reduction on his E. Season 9 they increased his stacks -again.

He has literally been getting nothing but buff after buff.

So..... when did he drop from 53-54% to 48%?

Oh right....... when Conquerer was introduced, Illaoi started taking Klepto, and spell based AD champs became the meta.

His loss of win rate has nothing at all to do with a nerf. It has to do with specific champs entering the meta, with certain runes. The rest of the roster still sees everything done to Nasus as a Buff, and that's about 95% of the Roster. The 5% who saw comparative buffs to Nasus, are now coming much closer to 50% with him.

A Tower of Babel buffs do not equal a nerf in any world.

D357R0Y3R1 votes

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lol..... You do realize Nasus has not been nerfed in years?

Yes, because he never broke through 51% win rate

Illabethe1 votes

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Yes, because he never broke through 51% win rate

And ofc ignore the rest of the post. Good Nasus players in high elo are pulling 76% win rate, but that's Okay. Nothing wrong there.

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