Can Ryze Stop outtrading with Mana Crystal

Jar Jar binks l·11/9/2019, 10:30:25 AM·42 votes·14,316 views

It's stupid tbh , that Ryze only need Mana Crystal to outperform most champions and he also outscales them.

57 Comments

D357R0Y3R11/9/2019, 10:31:47 AM61 votes

item 3010 item 3070

"I reached late game"

FireDrizzle11/9/2019, 11:17:40 AM32 votes

5(?) reworks and all he does is abuse you with no counterplay flux bounces and W combo.

Kiliva11/9/2019, 1:16:01 PM10 votes

They dumb him down for more players to play him. Less skill to play anyone can pick him up now.

Sirsir11/9/2019, 3:38:23 PM7 votes

That's what happens when you have an ult so bad they have to make his basics make up for it

Yordle Xayah11/9/2019, 11:02:06 PM5 votes

Actually Ryze is very weak in lane, and he only becomes strong with his late game power spike item:

item 3070

This can come as late as 5 minutes in. You want to make him even weaker?! How dare you!!!

Verxint11/10/2019, 2:37:34 AM4 votes

Not just ryze, the number of "lategame" champions with amazing early trades is bonkers

ChiefColonel11/9/2019, 2:22:14 PM4 votes

you mean that champ that does E than Q than after 0,5s E than the E resets Q and the E is up again, with each EQ dealing almost 1000 damage?

Trixster11/9/2019, 8:06:31 PM3 votes

Welp, time for another rework

Minimac200011/10/2019, 8:28:12 AM3 votes

I upvoted this thread bc ryze top gives me cancer, but then I realized my current regular build is almost as toxic me being a dirty transcendance abuser and all

L Psy Kongroo11/11/2019, 12:10:46 AM2 votes

Still waiting for Riot to realize that "spell-slinging machine gun mage" is bad design for a MOBA.

SirHydro11/9/2019, 1:38:07 PM2 votes

I'm sure another 5 reworks and he'll be balanced. This is Riot we're talking about. Don't we all have complete confidence in Riot's flawless track record?

iDarkWind11/9/2019, 3:24:24 PM2 votes

Don't worry because they will tell you that all you have to do is to not get close to your own wave. In other words, don't leave your base

toby mcteague11/9/2019, 6:22:35 PM2 votes

Maybe dodge his q? Seriously tho these boards.

Doopliss711/10/2019, 12:29:14 AM2 votes

they just really have to tone down or remove his mana scaling, tone down his ap ratios, or gut his base damages, getting high amounts of mana is way too cheap and accessible with so many items giving so much of it out. (item 3040 +1400 mana )

its why vlad is also a bit of a problem, cause he scales with HP pretty well which lets him build tanky but still have damage thanks to it converting to ap and vice-versa.

mack911211/10/2019, 2:29:12 AM1 votes

His kit has a fair amount of counter play not to mention rather simplistic to gank.

Syrile11/10/2019, 1:27:11 AM1 votes

This is what happens when you lower the skill floor on a champion that should only be played by high-skill players. Dumbing down the game has very bad consequences for the average player.

DoranShieldOp11/10/2019, 4:38:45 AM1 votes

ah yes totally unbiased post not related to worlds or anything

Ryanoguard11/9/2019, 10:29:50 PM1 votes

I get it. Archangels, RoA, and rabadons give him what? Almost 600 AP? Out of those items, you have 2 free slots for situational items + boots. He scales pretty insanely lol.

I really suck at him though.

xDogMeatx11/10/2019, 5:36:14 PM1 votes

EQ EQ EQ oh wait EW 1st now your morgana rooted.

idk why riot dumbed down his gameplay.

Ghoulen11/9/2019, 6:41:36 PM1 votes

hmmm