Wow, i remember why people dont play malphite

Eyesack··17 votes·1,689 views

despite him being an overall very strong pick people dont pick him top because 1: you can be bullied out pretty hard but its usually not too bad if you tank up

the real problem is the amount of cs you lose because you wind up running around in fucking circles trying to right click minions. The creep block is so fucking unreal i lost like 30 cs by 15 minutes just from running in circles multiple times to reach a minion, just to have it die before i get there.

That shit needs fixing.

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Weathered3 votes

You might be seeing some more Malphite however. Buffs to Draven, Ezreal, Jayce, and a new AD top laner who people forgot to name a few.

Ralanr2 votes

He's also boring as shit outside of his ult.

Just my opinion though. Malphite is the one tank I will actively turn away from.

TTK Dreadnought1 votes

yea...it just seems like he's stuck between a rock and a hardplace right now with the other champs of similar engage/disengage

Ralanr1 votes

I imagine he's taken over Sion because his ult is really hard to miss in comparison.

TTK Dreadnought1 votes

while i could agree with that, sion's laning phase is much better and he scales better IMO. While getting bonus armor is nice, once the late game hits and ADCs have that armor pen, sion's bonus health feels better since it can scale infinitely

morris11 votes

Outside of every champion and their grandma having % health damage, I can see your point.

kasfas1 votes

When you play him, you gotta have a mejais battle with someone on your team. It's a lot more fun that way.

But yea, malphite is really easy, so I play him when I don't really want to try.

Ralanr1 votes

Ive tried him once. He's easy, but by god I found him so boring that I started to make bad plays to make something happen.

Case in point: I ulted the enemy team and chased Jhin down to kill him while the rest of my team got caught and killed by Veigar. I killed Jhin at least!

I'm usually better at playing tanks. But Malphite bores me into actively making poor choices. I think the lack of hard CC on anything except his ult is the issue for me.

Apocalypsic1 votes

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He's also boring as shit outside of his ult.

Just my opinion though. Malphite is the one tank I will actively turn away from.

Funilly enough, malphite is one of my favorite tanks, when I play them

Ralanr1 votes

He just doesn't have enough CC for me.

BIH Diamond2 votes

I had a malphite top lane who had 50 cs at 20 min

He built full tank pressed R and won us teamfights

This champ is not weak and is braindead easy

oSEXYPLATYPUSo3 votes

[{quoted}](name=BIH Diamond,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hgMTZwtU,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-08-24T20:33:04.259+0000)

I had a malphite top lane who had 50 cs at 20 min

He built full tank pressed R and won us teamfights

This champ is not weak and is braindead easy

i had a game as Malphite top and ended with 453 cs

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hgMTZwtU,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2016-08-24T23:56:48.571+0000)

i had a game as Malphite top and ended with 453 cs

lol down voted for stating i got 453 cs as Malphite

TTK Dreadnought1 votes

I think Gnar, poppy and Sion are the only tanks i bother to play in top lane anymore. I love Nautilus with a passion, but the best spot for me to play him is jungle because he just dies in top lane against pretty much anyone.

DREADN0UGHT1 votes

actually I find Top lane Naut to be pretty fuckin good.

Just get Bami's cinder on first back. Then just wave clear til a tower falls.

But to be honest, I wouldn't pick him into shit like Riven or Fiora. But against passive lanes like Sion or Nasus.

TTK Dreadnought1 votes

While picking him into a passive lane is optimal, if im ever in the Nautilus mood, i cant pick nautilus if i dont know what the opponents are playing because then they choose the aggressive champion. Especially since junglers are pretty easy to pick out in champ selection.

xWaters1 votes

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actually I find Top lane Naut to be pretty fuckin good.

Just get Bami's cinder on first back. Then just wave clear til a tower falls.

But to be honest, I wouldn't pick him into shit like Riven or Fiora. But against passive lanes like Sion or Nasus.

Pick him into riven, or try it out. I've faced vs one and went 17/3. Probably wasn't a good riven considering I'm Bronze, but this was in normals. Lmao.

DREADN0UGHT3 votes

Yeah I can't really imagine a Plat+ riven losing to a naut at least not if she has mechanics down properly.

PermabannedGaren6 votes

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actually I find Top lane Naut to be pretty fuckin good.

Just get Bami's cinder on first back. Then just wave clear til a tower falls.

But to be honest, I wouldn't pick him into shit like Riven or Fiora. But against passive lanes like Sion or Nasus.

Sion isn't a passive laner lol. He's an obnoxious lane bully if played properly.

DREADN0UGHT3 votes

Uhm... yeah. Kinda. I had feeling someone would say that. I agree that he is a very good lane bully, but I still think there is much worst than him in that aspect.

A real (top) lane bully in my book is something like Riven Fiora Yasuo Gnar Yorick Irelia JarvanIV Kled Pantheon Renekton

xWaters2 votes

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Uhm... yeah. Kinda. I had feeling someone would say that. I agree that he is a very good lane bully, but I still think there is much worst than him in that aspect.

A real (top) lane bully in my book is something like Riven Fiora Yasuo Gnar Yorick Irelia JarvanIV Kled Pantheon Renekton

No mention of Darius?

TehNACHO1 votes

His lane bully potential is less of a dramatic power curve and more dependent on skillfully outplaying opponents. Timely Qs to break sustain and knowing exactly when to burn that otherwise costly hook of his.

Spoofghoul1 votes

well no as dariius you can usually just win by basic attacking he has the highest base stats in the game

though he doesnt have the highest base stat on any particular stat he does have the 2th highest in all stats!!

hes a stat bomb really and fight him too long and he gets 40/200!! bonus ad

with capability to heal anywhere from 12/48% of his missing health depending on how many you hit

though he can be kited reasonably well, he is also quite sticky once he does get in your face

many mele champs struggle vs him because they cannot kite him

Sion being the exception ironically, while not ebing able to stand toe to toe in a brawl you can outlast him simply by poking and kiting and just avoinding going melee range at all cost

DREADN0UGHT1 votes

48%? I thought it was 12% per enemy with a max of 36%. Did it chsnge?

TehNACHO1 votes

Just smile and nod, I don't think he's too serious.

DREADN0UGHT1 votes

I was.... I read every patch note and never saw that change. Spoofghoul explained it to me below. Thanks though.

Spoofghoul1 votes

well with runic armor and SV you get about a third more so 48%

Ralanr1 votes

Admittedly Sion doesn't do that well against other lane bullies. At least when I play him.

Sometimes I play against shitty players though. Or people that forget that Sion hurts and lack respect.

PhDs Nuts1 votes

It's rough to cs sometimes, but that's every melee top, not just Malphite. No AD top can trade with Malphite if he rushes Thornmail first, and paired with E max his wave clear becomes top tier.

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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It's rough to cs sometimes, but that's every melee top, not just Malphite. No AD top can trade with Malphite if he rushes Thornmail first, and paired with E max his wave clear becomes top tier.

It is better to rush Sunfire Cape first

Slack King1 votes

My fun builds on Malph are item 3748 item 3025

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Slack King,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hgMTZwtU,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-08-24T23:57:47.926+0000)

My fun builds on Malph are item 3748 item 3025

right now im liking item 3027 item 3025 item 3001 item 3068 item 3151

YumaS2Astral1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hgMTZwtU,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2016-08-25T00:12:29.445+0000)

right now im liking item 3027 item 3025 item 3001 item 3068 item 3151

You don't even need AP or AD bruiser items on Malphite. He is one of the few champions that can actually be built full tank and still be relevant late game. With his armor scaling, he has enough damage to kill an ADC late game if needed, as long as you build the correct items. I still like to build Abyssal Scepter most of time, though. The magic resistance reduction, cooldown reduction, and AP are extremely good.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

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You don't even need AP or AD bruiser items on Malphite. He is one of the few champions that can actually be built full tank and still be relevant late game. With his armor scaling, he has enough damage to kill an ADC late game if needed, as long as you build the correct items. I still like to build Abyssal Scepter most of time, though. The magic resistance reduction, cooldown reduction, and AP are extremely good.

i am aware of how you can build malphite but i said this is a build i like due to all stats it gives with his kit. also i one of the last games i played as malphite i had 453 cs

CaptnJakSparrow1 votes

I still question the people that wake up in the morning and go, "You know what sounds like a fun interactive thing to do this morning? Play Malphite!"

CeexSett1 votes

Some people like me actually enjoy Malphite. I love the ultimate, the E, the cancerous slow in Q and just having 600 armor at 40 minutes. Preferences.

SpookyNeedle1 votes

Didn't he get buffed this patch

Sire Hippington1 votes

the point of the post isn't about malph needing a buff, but creepblock screwing shortranged melees.

Sire Hippington1 votes

I have little issues with that as malph, max E, get the cinder, stand in the middle of the wave and press E to clear it. Now, for champs that actually need to get all the CS with AAs, 125 AA range simply means they are hardly viable top as creep block rearly sucks hard.

Lirik1 votes

OVERAL ranged DMG does way too much vs champion that have no ranged dmg or long cooldown ranged dmg.

zlumpy1 votes

I just end up skill spamming for cs after a certain point. Which didn't used to be a problem back when I had more mana solutions available.

FeXUyzmL4l1 votes

Lol op description made me laugh as I could picture what you were saying. I have no dog in this fight but take an upvote :D

Profirix1 votes

I stopped playing Malphite because hes not tanky at all until you have at least 2 items built, he is easily bullied out of lane, creep block, and because I prefer to play jungle, which is almost as bad as jungle Warwick because you have to wait around for the long ultimate cooldown to do anything.

l Helios l1 votes

1 of 2 things needs to happen Imo:

  1. Make everyone within a class (or everyone in general) the same size character model.
  2. Make it to where champions ignore minion unit collision.

I've never really had a heart-crushing issue with this, but I find it annoying that some champions suffer from it worse than others.

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