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Now that Yasuo is pick/ban status in pro play...

Neriticc··8 votes·2,553 views

Isn’t it time to nerf this champion now? This champion is designed to ruin this game. This champion is created by the same person that made Darius, Zoe, Kalista, Thresh and Caitlyn. People have been complaining about Yasuo since his release date and now it shows how fucking unbelievably broken this champion is.

A resourceless champion with free shield. A double crit passive so permanent 2x damage. Q spam all game with CDR for building AS plus free knockup skillshot that goes through everything without reduced damage. A better Braum shield that still has broken hitbox and Yasuo can stand inside it for 360 protection. Infinite mobility spam. An ultimate that Yasuo doesn’t need to set up with free knockup extension. Free armor penetration against all enemies not just the ones hit by the ult. A 30CD at rank 3 with 0 CDR. The ult deliberately places Yasuo outside of turret range while his target is still knocked up 5 miles away.

But he won’t get nerfed will he? People will say “tHe WiNrAtE”. Also Riot Bias Games will not nerf Yasuo because he is the promotional figure for this game. This company deliberately kept this champion broken for 6-7 years on purpose.

36 Comments

ProExpertKing5 votes

It hasn't even been 6 years and clearly you don't actually know jack about Yasuo Crits don't 2x his damage unless he has infinty. otherwise it's only 1.8x damage from crits. Also Yasuo's shield is broken but Malzahar's isn't? Yasuo being resourceless is op but Vladimir, Katarina, Garen, Riven, all aren't Renekton all aren't? Maybe Yasuo's Q is pretty much a weird auto attack enchancer which is why AS lowers it cooldown but CDR doesn't

Honestly it just sounds like get good at the god damn game. He's not overpowered and you're gonna throw a fit till he's unplayable because you don't know how to counter him. Just play brand and w+e him. It ruins his whole day because it goes through windwall and he'll probably think you're gonna q so you can bait his wall easy.

Tobykachu5 votes

If Yasuo is indeed picked this often in pro play then he likely is overpowered.

ProExpertKing1 votes

He's not even picked once

Tobykachu4 votes

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He's not even picked once

Maybe start putting in some research before you make your arguments. A quick visit to any YouTube channel that displays recent LCS level games and you can clearly see he has been picked several times. Pick or ban status no, but definitely more than once.

ProExpertKing1 votes

I have and haven't seen him once Maybe don't have an argument based on assumptions

Tobykachu2 votes

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ProExpertKing1 votes

And you clearly have no idea to hold a conversation so good bye

Tobykachu1 votes

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ProExpertKing1 votes

You clearly had no argument

Tobykachu1 votes

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You clearly had no argument

Nevermind. It's quite obvious you're trolling at this point. Have a nice day.

chipndip11 votes

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Well you’re certainly lying about something as going to any of these kinds of YouTube channels you can clearly see Yasuo was played twice out of the five games in the LCS and once in the LEC just yesterday. Either you visited these channels with your eyes closed or you didn’t visit them at all.

2 out of 5 games in LCS and 1 in LEC?

PICK/BAN NERF NOW

Tobykachu1 votes

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2 out of 5 games in LCS and 1 in LEC?

PICK/BAN NERF NOW

If you look to my previous comment I said he's not pick or ban, however the person I was replying to said he was literally not played at all.

SEKAI2 votes

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It hasn't even been 6 years and clearly you don't actually know jack about Yasuo Crits don't 2x his damage unless he has infinty. otherwise it's only 1.8x damage from crits. Also Yasuo's shield is broken but Malzahar's isn't? Yasuo being resourceless is op but Vladimir, Katarina, Garen, Riven, all aren't Renekton all aren't? Maybe Yasuo's Q is pretty much a weird auto attack enchancer which is why AS lowers it cooldown but CDR doesn't

Honestly it just sounds like get good at the god damn game. He's not overpowered and you're gonna throw a fit till he's unplayable because you don't know how to counter him. Just play brand and w+e him. It ruins his whole day because it goes through windwall and he'll probably think you're gonna q so you can bait his wall easy.

Yasuo is a problem because he's a resourceless champ that not only has no CD to begin with, he also doesn't even need to build CDR to reduce the already minuscule CD he has left because his Q's CD scales down attack speed.

He is designed around landing his Q3, a skill shot. Awesome. Except he could just EQ your ass and you can't dodge it. And better yet, he doesn't even need to land his 1 and only god damn skillshot because other people can do it for him too.

Speaking of his R, it still has that ridiculous safety net that puts him away from the turret as much as possible and nullify the risks Yasuo players must take when diving.

And despite having such a strong CC in his R on such an easily achieved condition and no CD, for some reason his R also needs to have offence steroid, and this is also after the fact Yasuo already has double crit.

His damage penalty from double crit chance is also complete peanuts. It's just there to fool the dumb to think that it's a penalty. It basically does jack shit the instant Yasuo purchases a crit item, and that's why Yasuo is the only champ in the game to start the game by rushing Statikk Shiv that provides no base damage upgrade but still do fuck tons of damage. The "crit penalty" is a complete and utter lie. At least Yasuo only has double crit chance once every few seconds or attack or something, his double crit as it is now is just ludicrous.

His Q is also designed so that it is the best of all worlds, where it is simultaneously an AA, a spell, and AoE but has the best perk of all of them with little to no downside to trade for such a boom.

His E is fixed distance dash, and this is on top of the fact it has no CD already, so you can't even corner him. In fact, the more people what gangs up on him, you're actually giving him more ways to escape because of that 2 elements being put together; so you're effectively being punished for doing a good gank on him. Who the hell thought it was a great idea to put them together?

Let's not mention his shield, that completely nullifies all pokes in lane as if his W isn't enough already. Combined with E, Yasuo's laning experience can only be described as utterly oppressive against all opponents who can't just slam into Yasuo with OP lane bully stat-checking. And guess what, even if you control Yasuo by smashing him down by picking a lane bully even more oppressive than Yasuo, Yasuo will outscale just about anyone in the game come late game, I'm sorry, TWO ITEMS.

You also can't just "bait his wall". His wall is a reactionary ability that comes with a broken hitbox that extends onto Yasuo himself, so he could shoot it out when he's ALREADY HIT and at the WRONG DIRECTION and it will still block the projectile. In other words, unless the Yasuo player is a literal dinosaur, he has enough time to see which projectile is coming from him and only use W when it actually matters. So you're not baiting Yasuo, you are only baiting yourself when you try to "bait" his W.

Overpowered or not, Yasuo's design is some of the worst design in any competitive game because he's entire design is as if someone is trying to throw all video game design theory out of the god damn window. His design is fundamentally broken.

Truli911 votes

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It hasn't even been 6 years and clearly you don't actually know jack about Yasuo Crits don't 2x his damage unless he has infinty. otherwise it's only 1.8x damage from crits. Also Yasuo's shield is broken but Malzahar's isn't? Yasuo being resourceless is op but Vladimir, Katarina, Garen, Riven, all aren't Renekton all aren't? Maybe Yasuo's Q is pretty much a weird auto attack enchancer which is why AS lowers it cooldown but CDR doesn't

Honestly it just sounds like get good at the god damn game. He's not overpowered and you're gonna throw a fit till he's unplayable because you don't know how to counter him. Just play brand and w+e him. It ruins his whole day because it goes through windwall and he'll probably think you're gonna q so you can bait his wall easy.

does renekton has infinite dashes, 2x crits a shield that blocks every fk attack??? and an ult that negates armore??? also long range pokes. does he??? no.

ProExpertKing1 votes

He does have infinite dash, has an ability that stuns and does 3 auto attacks as one, dashes negate armor, ult that gives him 1k hp and passive % max health damage in a large area around him, and a max health heal on his q that increases for each enemy hit.

preternatural2 votes

buff malphite thanks

preternatural2 votes

also ornn is he a thing?

preternatural2 votes

oh right item 4401 base hp gets do the thing

Sirsir2 votes

6-7 years? It has not been- (google search)

https://i.imgur.com/rAFP13z.mp4

ProExpertKing2 votes

It's been just under 6 years. Gotta wait till December for 6

DGAGAAsharpAGD2 votes

I could bet my car that if someone used "But XY is played in proplay" argument, you would just say "Proplay is nowhere near soloQ", but as long as it proves your biased point I guess...

ibeturgood1 votes

Anyone against it should play something like Xerath against Yasuo and see how fun it is as he effortlessly shoves you under tower while you barely keep up.

ModWulf Helhammer4 votes

Yeahno.

You picked literally like the worst mage to make your argument. Xerath is actually one of the best mages to play against him, with it being a skill matchup at worst. Xerath massively out-ranges Yas (and out-pushes the hell out of him as well), and only has two things that he can block (autos and E). Get good at landing skill shots, and it’s a walk in the park against him.

ibeturgood1 votes

If you are using your Q to harass you aren't using it on minions. Lane lost.

ChaosReyn3 votes

You must not play much of Xerath, huh...

His Q is more than capable of doing both, especially considering most Yasuo players prefer to play right in the middle of the minion wave to make use of their E.

His W is even easier to land and hit both him and minions with.

Most will rush Lost Chapter into Ludens for additional AoE splash damage, meaning even if you miss, you hit both anyway with like 4/5 Luden's procs.

The only time Xerath should be anywhere near Yasuo's kill range is when he's trying to refill his mana through his passive, and he'll likely just play it safe and use it on minions unless he's super confident in walking up and autoing your shield passive for free mana and stopping you from nuking him.

Basically, that lane is definitely unfun...for both sides. Yasuo should theoretically never reach Xerath...but true to your argument, if he does reach Xerath, there's really nothing he can do to not get sent to fountain.

ibeturgood1 votes

Yasuo doesn't have to put himself in that position when his melee is what 325 range? You two have clearly not played against a Yasuo with more than 3 braincells. Xerath eventually runs out of mana trying to keep up and all it takes is one tornado to land and you will flash or die.

ChaosReyn4 votes

Nice argument. "You two clearly haven't played against a real Yasuo" must be about the single most overused comeback when you have no actual response.

Good day, troll.

ibeturgood1 votes

If a Yasuo is standing in the middle of the minions facetanking Xerath's skillshots, yea they are bad. Do you even own Xerath?

FOR JUSTICE4 votes

implying he will never step up to cs. you also forget its a melee vs ranged matchup.

in either case, over all 11 regions:

NA: yasuo has a 44.75% winrate into this matchup EUW: yasuo has a 49.24% winrate into this matchup KR: yasuo has a 48.32% winrate into this matchup LAS: yasuo has a 42.66% winrate into this matchup TR: yasuo has a 47.33% winrate into this matchup

BR: yasuo has a 50.34% winrate into this matchup EUNE: yasuo has a 50.48% winrate into this matchup

all of these stats were taken from plat+ in each respective region. so yeah its safe to say your argument is just flat out wrong, the numbers dont lie. a xerath will shit on yasuo given ~ same skill level. at best, he just gets it slightly into his favor.

the other regions all have less then 100 games of this matchup, thus i cant call out data on it.

preternatural1 votes

revert item 3075 thanks /jaded

JackMcCarry1 votes

"tHe WiNrAtE" is a much better way to measure a champion's strength rather than people's reactional bias.

And yea, a champion with 47% mid WR, 46% top WR and 49% bot WR requires anything BUT nerfs.

preternatural1 votes

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"tHe WiNrAtE" is a much better way to measure a champion's strength rather than people's reactional bias.

And yea, a champion with 47% mid WR, 46% top WR and 49% bot WR requires anything BUT nerfs.

Irelia

SEKAI2 votes

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"tHe WiNrAtE" is a much better way to measure a champion's strength rather than people's reactional bias.

And yea, a champion with 47% mid WR, 46% top WR and 49% bot WR requires anything BUT nerfs.

15-25% of the community are playing him. That 1 in 5 on average, meaning every game would have about 2 Yasuo mains, 1 on each team.

A champ that absurdly popular is ofc going to have lower win rate since every turd and their shit dog is playing Yasuo. The fact he still maintains a win rate close to 50%, combined with his staggering high ban rate even in high elo, is indicative the champ having a lot of issues.

Spicy Rice1 votes

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/yasuo

TIL that a 47% wi rate is near 50%

P.S. it really isnt, and more than that, historically, yasuo has had a 50% winrate even with a high playdate due to the fact he has the single highest number of mains. The fact that he's at a 47% wi rate in plat+ means he is actually really bad in the current meta

D357R0Y3R1 votes

you don't watch pro play if you think he's pick/ban statue

KrazyIvanUSA1 votes

No one likes Yasuo, except the trolls. No one likes Yasuo's creator, except the trolls. Nerf the champ, fire the creator.

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