Runic Echoes, garbage on Eve and Nid.

Niyumi·Feb 3, 2016·2 votes·502 views

Eve's early clears are even worse than they were, and Nid can hardly jungle until 2-3 items (and camps take a good 10 seconds, even if you jump 3 times in a row). Plus, both champs lose a build slot since I have to build Lichbane on them.

Seriously, why can't you just do one change without actually thinking about the consequences?

7 Comments

ZephyrDrakeFeb 3, 20164 votes

you must be horrible at nid if you think she "can hardly jungle until 2-3 items" and if you need to build lichbane on her in any way shape or form

weeaboomerFeb 3, 20162 votes

Nid bad at clearing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCzGks9uuuI

NiyumiFeb 3, 20161 votes

Where in the world does all that damage come from? I have far more AP at the beginning, yet I do no damage, even if I set up the traps like you do.

KyroRayneFeb 3, 20161 votes

Look at his AD compared to yours. You deal more damage with AD early than AP. That's why his clear is so fast and strong.

AbyssphereFeb 3, 20161 votes

Leaving Eve aside, lol at Nid struggling to clear the jungle. She can clear everything solely off the back of the first jungle item - the clear help from the AP enchant is nice for her but not at all essential. Learn her clear before you complain.

It's not amazing on Eve but it not being amazing on her means it's about as good as Runeglaive rather than worse. It doesn't benefit her clear as much as Runeglaive at all but she doesn't need THAT much help by the time she gets her enchant and it helps her in other areas anyway.

Definitely BaitFeb 3, 20161 votes

I'm utterly horrible at Nidalee and can still get a full clear while screwing up trap placements (with a leash).

As for Eve it's not the item her first clears are just painful. Honestly it's one of the big reason I like to pull off the invade right after first buff. By the time I've got Runic Echoes its a breeze. What she needs isn't a item. It's a rework make her w into a stealth engage / escape button and be done with it already. So they can actually buff her in other areas without it being obscene. Honestly if it worked like deceive that would be fine she still would play and feel different than Shaco.

trash sionFeb 3, 20161 votes

I agree. I had just started playing Eve right before the new jungle enchant, and I can say with certainty that her clears got worse. I still build Lich bane, as I would never build Luden's on Eve anyway. Waste of an item spot... may have to start selling the jungle item once I have 3 items or so.