My friend is in complete denial that Graves and Lucian have almost the exact same playstyle. Help.

Sorgklaan··3 votes·448 views

How can I convince him how similar these champions are?

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Earl Eulrich3 votes

actually they don´t...graves is mostly there for the great laning + upfront-burst (works pretty good for Wombo or Pick-comps) while lucian has more sustained impact throughout a fight later on in the game. If Graves can´t get a fight in his advantage with the upfront-dmg he´ll have a really hard time kiting it out, lucian on the other hand really thives when fights get messy and he can be all over the place, jumping form duel to duel. but sure, both are Marksmen and rightclick people to kill them mostly...

Fiveofswords2 votes

uh...i can see how you would say they are similar, but exact same? no. graves is a lot more bursty than lucian, and is less mobile, and has a bit more survival.

Angry Monster1 votes

I am not sure how one is more mobile, they both have an auto attack CDR reduction for their dashes. I would argue one is tankeir than the other, but not so much that were outside of a dual that it matters.

Fiveofswords1 votes

because lucian has more move speed, has move speed buff with his w, also his spells have mroe range and he can move during his ult,

Renaille2 votes

Lucian is more sustainy and mobile.

Hayaishi22 votes

They don't.

Graves dives and burst lucian dances around kiting enemies.

Just because you see "HUUR HUR Q DOES DAMAGE W IS UTILITY E IS A DASH AND R IS MOAR DAMAGE HUR HUR" doesn't mean they are the same.

KaminoX1 votes

well they really are like insanely similar

insaiyanbacca1 votes

they aren't graves is actually viable lel

Angry Monster1 votes

your going to be surprised when worlds comes around, then you are going to say lucain is OP. Like the typical meta chaser you are

insaiyanbacca1 votes

whats a meta? im qeueing up as ad teemo bot with supp veigar and top ez right now lol

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