Not all of us have friends who play league. You shouldn't be given an advantage in league based entirely on who you know.
The hextech chest system should not give people with more friends a fucking advantage, you should not get more boxes and keys just because of who you queued with. And you should not have an advantage in ranked simply because of who you know.
Deep Terror Nami24 votesSo if you don't get something, nobody else should? Wow. It's an incentive for them, not a punishment for you.
As for gameplay advantages, MMR is adjusted to compensate, and the system tries to match groups with premades of equal size. Don't blame premades on your losses; they will happen whether if everyone is solo or not.
Nameless Voice44 votesThe question is why the incentive is there at all?
Why are Riot so dedicated to enticing people to play in groups rather than solo?
Hardstuck G413 votesBecause it's a MULTIPLAYER game?!
Serika Zero12 votesA multilayer game with no player - player interaction ( no trades, no 1v1 mode). A game that is marketed as competitive instead of social. Now trying to become social thing. Sadly the no player trade and no easily customable account/heroes without spending cash.
And that's why lol gets such a big negative response for 'lets give premades more advantages'
SpongebobIsLife4 votesand because overall, people enjoy the game more when they play with people they like. Which means more time spent on the game along with more money.
mogonk12 votes[{quoted}](name=Nameless Voice,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E0FfnwJI,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-04-13T13:27:46.579+0000)
The question is why the incentive is there at all?
Why are Riot so dedicated to enticing people to play in groups rather than solo?
I addressed this in a thread a while back.
Basically it's about money.
Leetri14 votesBecause if you play with friends you have a greater time and you won't get toxic players, AFKers or feeders. Basically, with all the incentives they want you to find other players you enjoy playing with and multi-queue. It's a way to combat toxicity, get happier players and of course get them to spend more. Someone who's happily playing with his friends is more likely to buy a skin than someone who just gets angry at feeders.
Maximum Morde20 votesMy friends are toxic shitters who get banned repeatedly, I don't want to play with them.
I6BITs1 votesYou are as toxic as your friends if you use s word to describe your friends. Hope you get banned soon
Maximum Morde4 votes[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]
Bisaknosp13 votesdont force me to have friends
Toplane Fencer8 votesI agree. I don't want to be forced to queue with people I don't know, purely to get key shards. Also just replace DynamicQ with SoloQ.
The Deckowner6 votesI HAVE NO FRIENDS WTF RITO I PLAY THIS GAME BECAUSE I HAVE NO FRIENDS IF I HAVE FRIENDS I WOULD BE PLAYING STUFF LIKE SMASH
I hate my ADC1 votesIf you want to lose your friends, you play smash, mario party or mario kart. http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/390/853/9f4.jpg
The Deckowner1 votesNo Mario Party is the only one U wanna play if U dont wanna have friends
I hate my ADC2 votesI dunno... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8mee2iMW84
Smash can be pretty bad too.
Solo Josh6 votes[deleted]
SociopathFriend6 votesOr.... or.... and follow me closely on this... The Reds who post the most aren't the ones in charge of that decision?
Levik5 votesGood thing it is a team game...
Vegas Dad4 votesGood thing it is a team game...
The failed logic of team game = must play with friends.. they are not the same thing and we all know it so don;t be that douche bag....everything i have been taught upon deciding to try league did not require nor suggest i required friends to team up with to play yet NOW IT IS BEING FORCED UPON ME. Not once when i downloaded , installed, and then created an account and logged into play ever gave me the most gentle push that I required friends to play, that i would need friends to play, that i would need friends to compete.
So ya don;t confuse team game with everyone on the team are friends who have not separated since birth. I can be an individual on a team.....
Starcraft243ver5 votesLeague of legend is designed as a team game with high communication and teamplay. So basically this game is DESIGNED to be played with 4 friends.
mogonk29 votesLeague of legend is designed as a team game with high communication and teamplay. So basically this game is DESIGNED to be played with 4 friends.
And that's a really good argument in favor of keeping a ranked 5s mode.
Not a good argument for matching solo players up with groups and calling that ranked competition.
Apokalypse4205 votesSame as many others have said on here. I don't play league to make "friends". I have a family and RL friends, don't punish me because I want to play alone. WoW started doing that and guess what? I don't give Blizzard my money any more. Hint hint?
IronwallJackson4 votes[deleted]
CppL112 votesYou don't add players to your friends list after good games? How in the world do you not have people to help you take advantage of the group incentives?
If i dont know them ,why should i add them?
IronwallJackson2 votes[deleted]
KrugLyfe13 votesYeah same as what cppl said why add random people? There are some creepy motherfuckers lurking I definitely wouldn't suggest it to a minor
612X0dbmDS98 votesIf i dont know them ,why should i add them?
^ This a hundred fucking times. Why in the freaking world should I add strangers to my friends list in the first place?
I don't play LoL because I need new friends. I have friends, I have a wife and I have a son.
I play to relax and have fun. I play SOLO and I don't want to have a premade on my side nor do I want to face a Premade.
I will not spend another cent on this game until soloQ is back.
rescued31 votesI'm married as well. I don't play league to make "friends", I play to relax after work and enjoy myself. I've added randoms in the past and tried to play with them; 9/10 times they end up toxic and I just delete them, so I just play solo unless my husband feels like playing a game of league.
Not only that, but not everyone is social. My husband dislikes interacting with people, he just plays the game and enjoys himself. Why should he feel forced to interact with others and add people?
MasterVidallis17 votesYeah, I'm in the same boat. My friends don't like league, my girlfriend doesn't play computer games. I have zero desire to "make friends" with randoms in league. I just want to play on my own to have fun after work. Riot needs to stop trying to shove "group play" down our throats. Specially since, to keep it real, the people who fund this game are the older players with jobs who will actually throw money at it often as I have.
Only Play Darius8 votesOlder players may have more overall income to spend, but the schoolkids probably still generate more profits. They don't need to pay rent or buy gas, it may not be good practice but they can spend literally 100% of their allowance and Christmas money on this game without any real repercussions. They are also less likely to understand the inherent disdvantages of digital goods therefore tend to be a much easier sell.
The Whamboozler10 votesIt doesn't matter which group makes Riot more money... they shouldn't give perks to part of their playerbase and not the other. Grouping is already an inherent advantage due to increased coordination. The new queue and rewards for grouping are literally enforcing that it is the correct way to play. No company should throw part of it's playerbase under the bus. What's more, there was no real reason to do so. Riot just... decided 4 man premades should be the rule and have a massive advantage in games as WELL as getting more free stuff.
I'd love to hear why they decided to go that way. I'm certain they didn't intend to flip a large portion of their customers and players the bird... but they did. And knowing Riot they are now going to be too stubborn to admit it and take that decision back.
Only Play Darius5 votesRiot wants to make the game experience positive for everyone, their #1 priority now that they have become the most popular game in the world, is to eliminate toxicity in their giant player base. Riot's research has found that premade play correlates to a massive drop in aggressive language and behavioral reports (the pool party event was a giant test). Therefore they are pushing for premades to eliminate toxic behavior.
That is why they went this route. They have good intentions, they're not trying to screw solo players rather they are just focusing on what they see as the big picture. I just wish they would take a look at this from a solo player's perspective. Might not be easy for them everyone they work with is a League fan and I doubt you can pass their personality test if you are antisocial or introverted.
The Whamboozler9 votesFalse correlation. Premades see less toxic behavior because they're usually all friends, or at the LEAST because they're likely on skype or something and so they're not using the chat at all. They could be cursing and flaming each other all game, but the chat would be pristine.
Premades however, still abuse their non-grouped teammates. What's more, FORCING players to play in groups isn't the answer. It's a stupid thing that is ruining the game for anyone who prefers to play solo or who doesn't have a pile of friends who play the game too. Sure the 19 year old bro has like 10 other guys he knows who play, but the 26 year old guy with a job and a family doesn't.
Imagine WoW during it's heyday releasing a patch that gave parties and raids +20% damage and health per person in their group... then balanced the monster stats around the inflated stats that they knew people would have due to this bonus. The people grinding the game solo for fun are utterly RUINED now, because they are at a severe disadvantage against everything they encounter because they cannot or have chosen not to play with others.
That's such a stupid idea that you KNOW it would never happen. So why is Riot introducing things that give MORE advantage to certain players? Having a group in skype or whatnot with you is already a big advantage over an uncoordinated solo team. By allowing those groups into ranked they are basically saying "If you don't have a premade in ranked, you deserve to be playing at a disadvantage. Even if BOTH teams have one, the solo players on each team are still left at the kids table to pick over the scraps while the people playing the game "correctly" decide who wins or loses.
Riot massively dropped the ball here, and well-intentioned or not they should have seen the downsides of their actions before they made them mandatory. Solo players shouldn't have to suffer for months on end just because they wanted to try something out and they're too short-sighted to have predicted the outcome.
Cenobite Azaziel8 votes[{quoted}](name=Jelly Mac,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E0FfnwJI,comment-id=00000000000100030000000000000000,timestamp=2016-04-13T20:30:02.536+0000)
Riot wants to make the game experience positive for everyone, their #1 priority now that they have become the most popular game in the world, is to eliminate toxicity in their giant player base. Riot's research has found that premade play correlates to a massive drop in aggressive language and behavioral reports (the pool party event was a giant test). Therefore they are pushing for premades to eliminate toxic behavior.
That is why they went this route. They have good intentions, they're not trying to screw solo players rather they are just focusing on what they see as the big picture. I just wish they would take a look at this from a solo player's perspective. Might not be easy for them everyone they work with is a League fan and I doubt you can pass their personality test if you are antisocial or introverted.
The toxicity is reduced but is more focused on the thrid wheel. The solo player of a 4/1 team. So we are reducing overall toxicity by sacrificing solo players. Sorry bro, I 'm not gonna be the lamb so you can have fun. Btw, the dynamic queue will deteriorate. When there are no more solo players, 4 man teams will be off the chart.
PbJMpP4xzk5 votesSo True !!! thanks you for your comment that made me happy i am not that kind of a social man myself and yet after being playing league since 2009 this is the first year that they force us to try to be more social and its hurt me.
Only Play Darius10 votesGot tired once of getting stomped by premades, so I finally asked one for an invite. First game the leader blamed and flamed me nonstop for not shutting down (as a 3/0 Quinn ADC) the 7-kill Morgana that their Zed buddy lost to. Last time I ever add someone post-game.
A Miss Fortune5 votesI understand completely how you feel, Jelly. Premades always team up with their friends regardless if they're wrong or right. Premade bias is ridiculously annoying and the worst part is that it isn't just in League, people do it so often in reality as well, if not more than online.
SuicideJ2 votesI had a group of guys add me to a game and I got called an asshole and snob because I said not to chase kills, to play safe, and focus on objectives like turrets. Because I know how to play the fucking game. I'm not the best player by any means, but I have an understanding of how League is supposed to be played in regards to the typical cardboard 7 mindset everyone has.
Sorgklaan49 votesI don't LIKE to play with groups, I don't want to play with groups. I'm fine with playing with friends I actually know on rare occasion, but most of the time I just want to play by myself.
IronwallJackson5 votes[deleted]
Ulquiorra99528 votesForcing people to play in groups kinda defeats the point of ranked play. My rank should be affected by my skill and my skill only, not by "enemy has more premades and thus more coordination than me". And as we've seen, nothing stops players from queuing with friends on a much higher level and climbing - which is nothing less than a legal form of boosting.
If I want to mess around with friends, there's normals. Ranked should be there only for solo players or full teams - otherwise it becomes pointless.
hhaavviikk22 votesI tried that couple of times, so far all of them turned into flaming assholes after I lost a game with them.
1 moment in a winning game they're like ''yeah gj team you are all doing great''
and then the next moment in a losing game ''OGM YOU FUCKING NOOBS GO FUCKING UNINSTAL PLZ SURRENDER GG''
Grubbling Butter3 votesI think the reason why riot wants you to play with more friends because the game is starting to peak (lose players.)
bluegolisano2 votesCppL made a great point, as did the followups, and Sorgklaan is perfectly right, but I personally CANNOT do Skype-chich teams because I have a 3-year old modem that sucks royal ass, and I find Skype-chich enemy teams to be just a bit OP'd if your team isn't capable of the same level of communication, hence;
IN-GAME VOICECHAT WITH CHAMPION-BASED VOICE CHANGERS
Solves all problems in terms of communication.
Clusella1 votesYou guys really need to chill. I've made some friends playing league and never met them outside the game. You don't even need to have a real relationship with them. I don't see why knowing you can count on someone when you see them online should be a bad thing even though you don't really know them.
Shroom Junkie4 votesI don't like socializing.
