They didnt nerf the real problem, which is the insane dmg she does with her support auto attack passive. They nerfed everything about her first and now she will be too weak since they are finally getting around to her problem which is the insane dmg and utility of her w.
Woook3r1 votesIf you want to snowball kalista just take xin support and go in lvl 2 its so harsh. xin does a ton of dmg with a slow and knock up, then you get 10% hp magic dmg, plus another auto attack from kalista, plus rend, plus ignite. Its a free kill.
Woook3r1 votesThey need to revert some of the other changes to her auto attack frame or something, but they will probably never get around to it because rito
luckmallory1 votesThey could nerf her so her auto's cant crit at all or something crazy like that and people would still play her all the time. Its her gamebreaking passive in combo with her ult that people care about.
Woook3r1 votesThey could nerf her so her auto's cant crit at all or something crazy like that and people would still play her all the time. Its her gamebreaking passive in combo with her ult that people care about.
Her passive isnt gamebreaking. When I play kalista and do well its because I have an agressive support and destroy bot lane then get a surrender immediately. Thats caused by her w which is insanely overpowered. She gets a moving ward and an ass ton of burst dmg once she hits lvl 2. Then you can build attack dmg and have a strong as %%%% mid game. You dont build runaans. Thats a stupid american build that doesnt work.
I guess from my games with kalista I might be able to understand why you dont want adc's to be over powered. You can get really fed once roaming phase starts bc your dmg is unlimited by cooldowns ect. Once you are ahead you can easily stay ahead. However, calling her passive gamebreaking is not true at all. Take Lyssandra and cc the %%%% out of her. If she builds runaans, ignore her! Dont dive bc you will die to kill someone with no dmg.
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Woook3r1 votesIf you want to iinsult someone then you should probably indicate who you are insulting...but I dont want to tell you how to do your job, troll.
luckmallory1 votesI replied to your comment therefore we can probably conclude i was speaking to you.
Woook3r1 votesThey could nerf her so her auto's cant crit at all or something crazy like that and people would still play her all the time. Its her gamebreaking passive in combo with her ult that people care about.
Considering that there is a build that incorperates zero crit, I would say that you are right. This is trivial tho...
luckmallory1 votesHer Passive and ult will always make her a high priority pick the same way lee sin is. No matter how much they nerf them their kits are just way too good
Woook3r1 votesHer Passive and ult will always make her a high priority pick the same way lee sin is. No matter how much they nerf them their kits are just way too good
You have a point in that you cant tune her hops. They just sort of are the way they are. But slows defeat her hops. She does have counterplay, and her win rate is low. You likely just hate being kited. As an adc, I hate hard engage and sticky champs with red buff. You've also been babied into thinking that adc should be given to you on a platter or zoned so far they cant deliver autos. You clearly have a probelm with the adc you cant dive.
Her op'ness derives from her w passive and whenshe builds early ad. Admittedly, she may be toxicly annoying to play against. One mans trash...
luckmallory1 votesI have absolutely no problem specifically with "reaching or sticking" to her. Everyone has that problem, you keep bringing up supports as viable arguments so i will use them. You have to get through every single one of the support's cc abilities AND once that is over she can just draw her support right next to her and knock up up for 1.25 seconds. Her passive allows her to be unkillable if skill shot reliant and her power lies in her E. If you think her power is in her W you are down right dumb.
Also im not sure where you think her win rate is low but in Plat+ (which is where balancing matters) she hovers between a 56-61 percent win rate and a 52 percent ban rate currently. You are in bronze i highly doubt you have ever seen a good kalista. It is impossible to play against. Her damage is only gated by her cooldowns as her E is infinite and her passive allows her to re position herself hundreds of times. The only counter to this is point and click hard cc and there isnt a lot of that left anymore and you need at least two of them such as a vi ult and malph ult and even then it isnt enough as it wont insta kill her and you cant stick to her through the support's cc and her ult. She also has better objective control than %%%%in nunu. Who should be the best in the game. She can do like 3000 damage to baron and execute it. Thats stupid broken. Im not sure if you have ever seen a Kalista Tahm Kench lane but she is basically unkillable In plat and above (where players know how to actually play her and master her mechanics and the team knows how to peel) she is borderline unstoppable.
Woook3r1 votesYou have to get through every single one of the support's cc abilities AND once that is over she can just draw her support right next to her and knock up up for 1.25 seconds. Her passive allows her to be unkillable if skill shot reliant and her power lies in her E. If you think her power is in her W you are down right dumb.
In plat and above (where players know how to actually play her and master her mechanics and the team knows how to peel) she is borderline unstoppable.
And my last point, the point i try and make over and over in various threads, if riot does something to provide for a duo jungle meta, then the support adc bot lane will fade away, your point about the supports cc abilities is moot, and my adc's can get some mobility buffs because then their early game is ACTUALLY WEAK bc no support like leona will be there to prevent ganks. This will make me happy bc I will be able to climb a little bit higher, should make you happy bc vayne will actually be weak early (to ganks and %%%%) kalista wont have a dedicated peeler in plat+.
luckmallory1 votesAgain your whole argument means nothing. Riot balances based off of Plat and above and have said so consistently. That is how it should be. These are the players that are actually good at the game and are all consistently within the same skill level and know mostly everything about the game and character mechanics.
In bronze for instance, i can go kennen ADC and i promise you i will destroy anyone in bronze with any adc they pick. how do you balance for bronze when the players are so bad they can do that. Bronze is not realistic and neither is silver nor gold. I can stomp with any champion i want on my bronze smurf with basically any build. I went ADC Leblanc a couple games ago and went 17-4. Two games before that i went Tank Draven Mid and went 9-4-23. Riot isn't gonna balance around that %%%% when players are so bad that players who are actually good can roflstomp with anything. It is the same reason why Tryndamere, Fiora, YI, Heimer, etc never get substantial nerfs or buffs. They are bronze stompers but are horrible at high elo. If they balanced them for high elo they would be permabanned in low elo. Some champions are meant to excel at high elo some at low.
Kalista, lee sin, elise, jayce, gnar, vayne, ahri, etc are all champions with dog %%%% win rates in bronze silver gold but excel in high elo or Plat+ because those people know their mechanics and are actually good at the game. When a champion is stomping in Plat+ they needs a nerf, riot doesnt care how they do in bronze or silver and they shouldnt. You are the majority of the player base yes, however the majority of the playerbase sucks and they get all of their money from the LCS, not you.
Woook3r1 votesAgain your whole argument means nothing. Riot balances based off of Plat and above and have said so consistently. That is how it should be. These are the players that are actually good at the game and are all consistently within the same skill level and know mostly everything about the game and character mechanics.
In bronze for instance, i can go kennen ADC and i promise you i will destroy anyone in bronze with any adc they pick. how do you balance for bronze when the players are so bad they can do that. Bronze is not realistic and neither is silver nor gold. I can stomp with any champion i want on my bronze smurf with basically any build. I went ADC Leblanc a couple games ago and went 17-4. Two games before that i went Tank Draven Mid and went 9-4-23. Riot isn't gonna balance around that %%%% when players are so bad that players who are actually good can roflstomp with anything. It is the same reason why Tryndamere, Fiora, YI, Heimer, etc never get substantial nerfs or buffs. They are bronze stompers but are horrible at high elo. If they balanced them for high elo they would be permabanned in low elo. Some champions are meant to excel at high elo some at low.
Kalista, lee sin, elise, jayce, gnar, vayne, ahri, etc are all champions with dog %%%% win rates in bronze silver gold but excel in high elo or Plat+ because those people know their mechanics and are actually good at the game. When a champion is stomping in Plat+ they needs a nerf, riot doesnt care how they do in bronze or silver and they shouldnt. You are the majority of the player base yes, however the majority of the playerbase sucks and they get all of their money from the LCS, not you.
And when another moba that is more friendly to bronze players comes out rito will do what you think? Make even more money from the lcs?
I like how you spent three pages telling me how good you are at the game but you didnt look at the rest of my post.
luckmallory1 votesThey will still balance around the LCS and closer elos. The reasoning makes sense. If the game is balanced around bronze level because the most people are there the Plat+ players would be playing a completely broken game and the LCS would suck. Any moba that has ever existed balances its game around the high levels and the pro scene. The reason 78 percent of people are in bronze and silver is because they truly do not understand the game.
They expect you to get better at the game however most people in bronze and silver never do. That isn't Riot's fault. Just looking at your profile you do typical things most players in bronze/silver do and dont get why they cant climb.
This is the biggest one. You do not CS well. at all. Not a single champ do you get 200 CS with a game which is pretty mandatory every game, i have champs where i average 300 a game. 18 CS= 1 kill
You absolutely do not ward at all. In your last 3 games you threw a combined 9 wards so 3 per game. You should be throwing out about 20 per game.
Your only not horrible role is ADC and even then it isn't that good. You seem to do pretty OK when playing ADC but are completely horrible when playing any other role. You dont know how to play every role at least somewhat effectively.
How the hell is riot supposed to balance around people who can't do the basic shit in the game correctly?
Dreadlocks1 votesSo her passive which allows her to re-position/kite every auto attack, her E which allows her to infinitely stack damage to deal more damage to objectives like baron and dragon than smite itself. Or more annoyingly her ability to pull her support to safety, untargetable. So.... these arn't problems?
Altricad2 votesShe deals 90% ad on auto attacks... Like, 
does 10% increased AD on auto attacks in rocket form ( that also crits because fk reasons)
just does 10% AD true damage on auto-attacks for like... no reason
Also, assuming you have a 300 AD you'd need to have 20 stacks on baron to outsmite a jungler...
Also, her ulti deals ZERO damage and depends on your support not being brain-dead ( I've had many supports sissy out in teamfights and mess up initiations)
Kalista is a lane-bully, her win rate drops off once games go longer than 40+ mins since at that point every other adc out-scales her
Dreadlocks1 votesI'm not saying every other ADC is perfect, sh!t look at Vaynes W, being more effective vs squishes than tanks despite her "identity" being a tank shredder. I dont think Jinx should get AOE fuking crits.. thats absurd to me. My point isn't about all these other champions though. My point is focused around Kalista. I think Riot is trying to balance her around what makes her unique, which is fine.
Their are 2 problems with Kalista, 1: she is so unique which makes her hard to balance as they dont really have another champion to use as a molding. Shes basically a "from scratch" champion. She is not comparable to really any ADC or champion in the game. THUS making it hard to balance her.
Problem number 2: She was released @ a time that EVERYONE was/is crying about mobility. Riot reads about how tanks and sh!t are getting sh!t on left and right and how much of a problem mobility is especially to these tanks, and then releases probably the most toxic version of mobility the game has ever seen.
Since her release, riot has helped tanks out significantly however the toxic kit that Kalista has will never be accepted by the vast majority of the community.
Rysophage1 votesYou know what happens when a tank gets mobility? Ekko. NO MOBILE TANKS.