So is anyone else sick of Quinn

FalconPawwwwnch·Feb 13, 2017·29 votes·2,292 views

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Big LincolnFeb 13, 201719 votes

i'm really loving all the counterplay i have against Quinn as a melee champion, which i will list below

TheHappyReaperzFeb 13, 20178 votes

Don't really see much Quinn.

ADepressedLeonaFeb 13, 20178 votes

I'm sick of leathality builds in general literally deleting my squishes in less than a second

Tribbles FoxfolkFeb 13, 20176 votes

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Her Update was a total failure, IMO. As a diehard pre-Update Quinn fan, I think she's totally stupid now. Not only is she overpowered, but she's BORING. Her old ult was rather fun; it turned Quinn into a dive-bombing melee nuke with a huge damage spike and an execute. Her new ult? "Valor, give me a taxi ride!" It's stupid.

I'm only sick of her from the perspective that she's a boring mainstream Assassin now with no niche except "I'm ranged!" (All ADCs are ranged Assassins now, let's be honest.) Riot needs to take her back to the drawing board; revert her update (won't happen), figure out if there's a way they can make a melee/ranged form-swapping version of Quinn & Valor work, and roll with that.

BlåbæretFeb 13, 20173 votes

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Her Update was a total failure, IMO. As a diehard pre-Update Quinn fan, I think she's totally stupid now. Not only is she overpowered, but she's BORING. Her old ult was rather fun; it turned Quinn into a dive-bombing melee nuke with a huge damage spike and an execute. Her new ult? "Valor, give me a taxi ride!" It's stupid.

I'm only sick of her from the perspective that she's a boring mainstream Assassin now with no niche except "I'm ranged!" (All ADCs are ranged Assassins now, let's be honest.) Riot needs to take her back to the drawing board; revert her update (won't happen), figure out if there's a way they can make a melee/ranged form-swapping version of Quinn & Valor work, and roll with that.

Quinn is overpowered? lol?

Lethality is broken, that's not a Quinn specific issue.

Tribbles FoxfolkFeb 13, 20173 votes

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Quinn is overpowered? lol?

Lethality is broken, that's not a Quinn specific issue.

If you played Quinn for even ONE GAME post-Update (and PRE-Lethality), then you could easily tell Riot had botched her, BADLY.

Lethality is broken. Sure, that's a part of the problem. But new Quinn is just ridiculous because of how safe she is in her Assassin role. Her base range (525) greatly exceeds all of her melee foes in toplane (all of which are struggling to hit 200, let alone break 500), her abilities have long cast ranges, her passive scales ungodly well (to the point of practically being a static 2x multiplier since *everything in her kit applies Harrier now), she has a Nearsight (the single most infuriating debuff in the game) that also has dual scaling (cough Natural Talent cough) and a long range AND is an AoE, her E is a strong engage/disengage with a slow that mini-stuns AND applies Harrier (and it deals a lot of reliable damage, especially for a point-and-click spell), her W gives her a good steroid on her passive and can be activated to give vision in a major AoE, and her R kind of goes without saying in how stupid it is. (100% AD scaling that applies Harrier and gives a Mega Evolution version of Boots of Mobility with a 3 second cooldown? Oh yeah, and it's an AoE spell with a huge radius. dying inside intensifies)

Valor BotFeb 14, 20171 votes

Skystrike doesn't apply Harrier, though engaging from R certainly makes it feel that way.

JVlasterQuinnFeb 14, 20171 votes

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Skystrike doesn't apply Harrier, though engaging from R certainly makes it feel that way.

When you pop out of skystrike, the nearby enemy champion will be marked.

Valor BotFeb 14, 20171 votes

Aye, the ability itself doesn't apply it though as Eevee Girl stated, otherwise she'd be able to chain 4 marks consecutively (the max in a single rotation is 3).

HopeslayerFeb 13, 20174 votes

a champ that was never played before suddenly being played

OH NOES

Tribbles FoxfolkFeb 13, 20171 votes

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a champ that was never played before suddenly being played

OH NOES

A champion that used to be an extreme niche as an anti-melee semi-Assassin Marksman with great mobility got mega-buffed and became a must-pick until they re-gutted her into being merely viable as a TOPLANE DOMINATOR?

OH NOES

Seriously, screw off.

BisaknospFeb 13, 20174 votes

same with Corki Graves Jhin Varus

Ambient SnowFeb 13, 20174 votes

Quinn is popular cause of her new skin

As for Virus he's just perma ban till they fix lethality

Reaper SorakaFeb 13, 20173 votes

100% banning varus any chance I get. Quinn I can deal with for now.

SwarovskoFeb 13, 20173 votes

I'm sick of lethality, not Quinn.

JVlasterQuinnFeb 14, 20171 votes

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I'm sick of lethality, not Quinn.

This. I Love Quinn and i'm seriously bothered that she get so much hate out of sudden. It's lethality the problem, not Quinn.

VarnocFeb 13, 20172 votes

As much as I love her as a character, I know (and I've seen many other "Mains" express this opinion) that she's very unfun/unfair to play against. Personally, that's one of the reasons I don't play her near as often as I used to now-a-days.

What specifically do you find frustrating about her? I have a pretty good idea of what it is most people dislike, but you may be different.

xxxDogmanxxxFeb 13, 20172 votes

I'm kinda getting sick of seeing Lethality ADC's in every game, but since I'm a bruiser main, I don't really find them oppressive.

Spaceman5pffFeb 13, 20176 votes

Really? I am very sick of item 3142 item 3814 item 3147 item 3071 item 3033 shredding 110% of purchased armor on a 400 armor target, even more if your armor pool is smaller.

Like I get you should be able to mitigate tank stats, but mitigate and nullify are two different things!

xxxDogmanxxxFeb 13, 20172 votes

I just build Frozen Heart/Randuin's Omen. The attack speed slow is devastating considering the Lethality ADC's don't build attack speed.

Spaceman5pffFeb 13, 20171 votes

It helps yeah, but most of the damage is coming from spells, which is troublesome.

xxxDogmanxxxFeb 14, 20171 votes

By buying just one Randuins/FH, I've effectively turned the 5-item Lethality ADC's from high burst + high DPS to medium-high burst + low DPS. As a bruiser main, that reduction is enough to let me survive and kill them, without even compromising my own build. That's why I feel that they're not oppressive.

Still pretty tiring to have the same enemies in every game though.

Spaceman5pffFeb 14, 20171 votes

I don't think you actually get what 100 armor feels like.

xxxDogmanxxxFeb 14, 20171 votes

I'm not going to get into an argument with you about what 100 armor feels like (I play mages secondary, so I know what squishiness is), nor am I in any way delegitimizing what you feel about lethality ADCs. If you're looking for an argument, you won't find it from me, friend.

SiachiFeb 13, 20172 votes

Only reason I'm kind of sick of her, is because of two games with jungle Quinns on my team yesterday: To put it politely, both of them made some very poor decisions and generally didn't cooperate with the team much.

Spaceman5pffFeb 13, 20171 votes

I asked one not to invade the jungle when the lanes near her weren't pushed up

and she was like "wut, if you guys are pushed up then the laners are closer to me"

nearly fell out of my chair laughing

aqours fanboyFeb 13, 20172 votes

Falls off hard.

ThefrostyvikingFeb 13, 20172 votes

Quinn is only a passenger on the lethality train.

Like every AD assassin and AD bruiser, caster and some skirmisher and divers. Even 2-3 ADC's.

ElishevaFeb 13, 20172 votes

She's not really overpowered, but her rework was a failure and riot should feel bad about it. Lowered her skill cap, skill floor, and took away the only mechanic that made her fun.

MiraweaveFeb 14, 20171 votes

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She's not really overpowered, but her rework was a failure and riot should feel bad about it. Lowered her skill cap, skill floor, and took away the only mechanic that made her fun.

56% winrate

But no, Quinn's rework was awesome. Her kit's a lot more focused now and the ult is awesome. The only issue is that she's super overtuned rn.

SaltyKrackaFeb 13, 20171 votes

Slightly less sick of her than I am of Ahri.

And I want to punch that bird in the face so hard.

NineTailedMysticFeb 13, 20171 votes

Thing is, Ahri will never not be popular :^)

SaltyKrackaFeb 14, 20171 votes

She could stand to not be overpowered.

NineTailedMysticFeb 14, 20171 votes

She isn't.

SaltyKrackaFeb 14, 20171 votes

The hell she isn't.

NineTailedMysticFeb 14, 20171 votes

She's been like this for 2 years now. Her last non-bug fix appearance in the patch notes was 5.16 where her passive got a small nerf. She'll be getting indirect nerfs when the %damage amp in masteries nerfs hit live anyways.

SaltyKrackaFeb 14, 20171 votes