Why is Kayle being nerfed?

AirKingNeo·Dec 12, 2017·7 votes·1,617 views

Low playrate, moderate winrate champion. Most people with say that's pretty balanced. Meanwhile champions like Pantheon and Teemo ruin top lane and Riot hasn't even touched Pantheon.

Why is champion who's statistically balanced and no one in high elo is complaining about getting nerfed for no reason?

Having a lower cooldown on later rank E isn't a buff either. She's already building into above 40% CDR to gain bonus stats with Transcendence.

As a Diamond Kayle described: "No it's not a buff, it's a big nerf. It goes from E 6 seconds downtime and 10 seconds uptime (37.5% downtime, 62.5% uptime) to 8 seconds downtime and 10 seconds uptime (44.44% downtime, 55% uptime). It's 2 seconds more to freely engage on Kayle, 18.5% more E downtime."

20 Comments

Lunar LunacyDec 12, 20173 votes

Because her winrate was high for like 2 days I guess lol

AirKingNeoDec 12, 20171 votes

Basically this. I saw her mid winrate be 55% for a day, and now it's back to the shitter 51% (remember, still 0.6% playrate)

Lunar LunacyDec 12, 20171 votes

The way I see it, she was probably only being played by the best Kayle players, then when all the average Kayle players saw her winrate was high they all started trying to play her and brought it back down to "normal" levels.

DariusDemiurgeDec 12, 20171 votes

Deserved. Also we all know riot plays favorites.

AirKingNeoDec 12, 20173 votes

"Statistically balanced champions needs nerfs" while Riot lets shit like Riven have 53% playrates at 10x the playrate and allows Pantheon to be the best top laner.

SalronDec 12, 20171 votes

Because Kayle needs a more vulnerable early

AirKingNeoDec 12, 20171 votes

Since when?

SithesisLordDec 12, 20172 votes

More than she already is this preseason?

ZoeCDec 12, 20171 votes

I can kind of understand where they're coming from, being a Kayle player myself. I feel like this change is going to change builds somewhat, and as much as I feel it's not a necessary buff, I do get it. I'll just have to learn to play around it for now. It basically means timing engages and zoning will become more important, especially early game.

MrHaZeYoDec 12, 20171 votes

All champs who can abuse early game top lane from ranged are seeing nerfs

AirKingNeoDec 12, 20173 votes

I don't see Pantheon or Gnar.

Kayle is perfectly balanced.

MrHaZeYoDec 12, 20171 votes

You can downvote me all you want. I just took information from the ask Riot section and they said they're basically gonna nerf all ranged champions top.

Gives No LuxDec 12, 20171 votes

For the same reason Irelia is getting reworked. Her kit is overloaded and is basically zero counter play with the current runes.

AirKingNeoDec 12, 20172 votes

When is Kayle kit overloaded? Her spells have a max of 2 effects each, being only two of them, and those are her weakest skills.

Doesn't give a reason why a balanced champion needs a nerf. She isn't ruining the game.

Gives No LuxDec 12, 20171 votes

Damage slow, heal/speed buff, a ranged steroid that is even better than old nidalee and a game changing ult.

She may not be popular but that doesn't mean that her kit isn't overloaded. Right now she basically has no counter play since she can completely zone anyone except maybe Zed from the minion wave entirely.

AirKingNeoDec 13, 20172 votes

A weak slow (that damages like every ability in the game) with low base damage, a weak heal and a weak, short duration speed boost, her signature E effect which we all know no one should adjust because it's fine right now, and her ult which compensates for her Q and W being weak while also being a simple effect that all invulnerability effects are based around. I didn't even mention her weak hybrid pen that only exists so she can damage tanks (because no hybrid pen items exist).

And all you did was list her kit without even mentioning how powerful her skills are. She has the base stats between a melee champion and a ranged, but more towards ranged (with only slightly better HP and armor than average ranged). You could list ANY CHAMPION'S KIT LIKE THAT AND MAKE THEM SEEM OVERLOADED!

Here's Aatrox: Revive passive that grants attack speed and percent base AD, damaging knockup gapcloser, heal and damage toggle, damaging AoE slow, and massive range boost, attack speed boost, and burst ultimate.

Is Aatrox overloaded? You can tell how overloaded a champion is based on the word count of their abilities. Kayle's word count is quite low, not that anyone needs to count.

Gives No LuxDec 13, 20171 votes

Yes, and he was nerfed into the ground until a rework. You just proved my point.