Real talk? Mordekaiser's W (@Riot)

Burnt Iron King··9 votes·1,196 views

Okay Riot, can you please clarify why exactly you don't want Mordekaiser to use his W when alone? Seriously? It's not like it's that strong of an ability anyways, especially if the two clouds don't even overlap, and we still didn't get any clarification on why exactly he can't use it either in Solo lanes or bot when his support has to leave. Let's be honest here, your support has to back eventually or get some deep wards down, making you one ability short. Since you've nerfed his Siphon his waveclear suffered, especially if he can't use the AoE from his new Harvester of Sorrow. Oftentimes I find myself in the situation of using one Siphon on a wave only for them to survive with a sliver of health.

So, where's the harm giving him access to it? It's damage is mediocre when not around an ally, he won't get the movement speed buff and the heal could even be tweaked accordingly. Heck, you may even consider giving it a health cost when used on himself to make it less problematic. Without being able to cast it on minions he can't even use it as poke or an out of jail free card in difficult matchups (Practically anything with range)-

But really, where's the harm in giving him access to it? I think this hasn't been clarified enough so if there's a valid reasoning behind it let us know so we don't feel like you put the restriction there simply to make his solo experience less attractive. (You said yourself you wanted SoloKaiser to feel as fun/strong as he was before while still making him less of a lane bully)

11 Comments

kikiandcoco1 votes

MordeKaiser has to be the worst update I ever seen league do tbh. But not even mad though. free elo for me

36949613_DEL1 votes

I just cant understand how Mordekaiser and darius won my last game as bot duo (we had marksman MF and leona suport)

TL DR .They won game.cry

terkmc1 votes

Leona is basically a non factor against these two. If she ever goes in or ever try to do anything that isnt ulting, the combined melee prowress would decimate her. So its basically a 1v2 lane, MF vs Morde and Darius with Morde still getting solo lane xp. Not that hard to understand

Nilok1 votes

I think they would do more then simply reduce her by a tenth.

Verxint1 votes

The only thing I would imagine is that you should get less/none movespeed if you use it on a creep/yourself.

Mordepool1 votes

My suggestion would be to allow him to store 1 use (cast on himself or minion) of W at the start of the game that gets recharged by being near an allied champion for a set amount of time. 35-40seconds. Power balancing wise its not too great a shift. Also FYI I don't like the new morde at all. I wanted a reworked healthy champion not feast or famine codependency

ReshiKillim1 votes

The reasons why Riot won't give Lordekaiser Solo lane W:

1: He'd become a stronger solo lane sustain at lvl 1 than a Vlad at lvl 6, as his heals are a lot stronger.

2: It actually does a crap ton of damage even when only 1 person is procing it on the enemy Did 450 damage from supp alone at lvl 2 W

3: His waveclear and tankiness would be too strong, as he'd get more damage, strong heal, more shield, massive amounts of aoe against minions.

In summary, he'd be the new Yorick of midlane.

ElJanitorFrank1 votes

"it's not like it's that strong of an ability anyway"

If you max it second, and pop it on an enemy champion, you get about half your health back. Total health.

There is no reason to give someone the highest single target nuke in the game (barring some mages, I suppose) as well as a shield for a passive, waveclear and poke (albeit not a lot) as well as a huge heal.

That is the definition of solo lane toxicity.

I've had plenty of solo lane morde's tell me that he does just fine the way he is, might need some tweaking, whatever. I'm not going to give an opinion either way, because deciding a champion is too strong or weak after a couple of games is beyond preposterous, but I ask you do the same, and understand that WITH his W in a solo lane, untweaked, would make him one of the strongest champions in the game.

Vhalthoria1 votes

People need to understand that his new W is it not just the problem and adding it will not guaranteed his solo laning revival.

It is his abyssal MS for a melee champion with no escapes, gapclosers, low durability early, and no CC's. Morde solo is now twice as much easier to gank and killed thanks to the way he has been crippled in order to switch his strengths to the other areas and force him into duo lane.

Kaeblen1 votes

Isn't the current problem with Mordekaiser , right now, that he is being forced into an identity crisis?

7ball1 votes

I thought his currently problem is that he is now a useless piece of trash

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