Vladimir, Morde and Co are being kept weak cause they're "unhealthy", "oppressive" and unfun to face

yeah but those champs look way cooler

Vlad can't ward hop so gut him xd

"you need counterplay morde"

" was intentionally reworked into cancer and was actually cancer? gut that garbage and gut all his items!"

" can suppress people who are walking into the FoW alone with no vision and burst them? AS A MAGE/ASSASSIN??!?! OH HELL NAW! rework that cancer into something boring and even worse then leave it to die!"

"'s ult automatically puts him outside the range of a turret if possible? well why should they be safe under their turret?"

" can tumble crit dealing massive amounts of damage for free with absolutely no counterplay other than don't be near her? I am not seeing the issue..."

"'s ult roots his opponent and he can flash to change the direction of the kick but they can't flash away? How else is he suppose to kick an enemy towards his team and get out completely safe with no risk to himself?"

" can place 5 traps around an enemies turret completely zoning them away from their own turret? ONLY 5?!?! wtf buff that shit to 10 and reduce its mana cost!!!! Oh we can't? oh damn i guess we just have to leave her as is... sorry you poor poor cait mains"

Vlad is kept low because of his ult and Lcs.

His entire kit screams outplay me. The rework completely failed.

That's the list of Champions I overly enjoy destroying with Mordekaiser killing overly Mobile champion feels like I'm slowly removing the Cancer that is ruining the Fun of League of legends

- needs a much higher cooldown for her escapes, and they should cost more mana. I don't have an issue with her kit other than shes a bit too safe.

- maybe needs some stat tweaks but overall is fine

- again maybe needs some stat tweaks but overall is fine

- also maybe stat tweaks but overall is fine. The mid game spike might be a bit too much.

- needs either major stat tweaks or major cooldown modifications. I don't really have a problem with her kit, just how often it's usable.

- needs a real disadvantage, just toxic, high damage, extra crit, great mobility, great escapes, has a shield (why????) no weak points, oh and a counter to every marksman in the entire game. Seems legit. [zombie-brand-mindblown]

Vlad was literally pick/ban for most of competitive season. When he's even remotely good in soloqueue he's busted in competitive.

Fair point on Morde, Yasuo/Vayne are easily more flawed (%hp true dmg with 375% AD shiv Q crit burst, most overloaded kit in the game by a mile for Yasuo) and yet for whatever reason riot allows them to remain strong.

Really though. And these champs have seen next to no changes and even buffs. Can make good trades and leave the opposing laner no way to retaliate Same thing, and he has no weakness at any point of the game. Cause getting bursted for 1/2 your health from 1400 range makes for fun times Is probably decently healthy, but needs less burst from 2 items. The ult. An extremely overloaded kit with a BS stun, annoying sustain and TRUE damage

Counter play is Turtle behind tower and wait for gank and hope enemy lee sin is disconnected

Eyes twitching Graves got nerfed like 3 times.

Vladimir and Morde ... and co? Really? Nice try. Though I guess I could include Sejuani :]. But anyway they were gods in LCS before all their nerfs hit. The same can't be said for the champions arbitrarily complain about.

They fall in and out of the meta naturally. Well, mostly, again, multiple Graves nerfs and e.g. the removal of Lee's AS slow was huge.

Not that Riot doesn't nerf those champions eventually (entirely thanks to you!) but thankfully, they don't do it in a kneejerk manner.

Who said that? Unless you're singed vlad is perfectly fine to face. Plus my winrate against morde is 100%.

Riven and Yasuo is 100% your skill vs there's

Yeah f cait and vayne

Now that the level 3 ganks when your level 1 he should slow down

getting full rework

not really that bad