Really, we're buffing Lulu's AP ratios

FalconPawwwwnch·Jun 15, 2016·4 votes·602 views

Did we not learn from the last 100 times she was abused as a solo laner and then she was nerfed so she was worse as a support also

Or are we going to forget about all those times

7 Comments

AhristocatsJun 15, 20163 votes

0.2 AP ratio won't change anything in solo lane especially since the damage is reduced by 70 or 80% if it hits a minion

but 35% attack speed on an ADC is sure something, i was mindfucked when i saw this.

this time riot didn't suck, gotta admit.

Poop JellyJun 15, 20162 votes

she gets "The damage taken by targets subsequent to the first by each bolt is reduced to 70%."

And they're trying to bring Lulu supp up by other buffs so overall it should be fine... Though the numbers may be tweaked.

Kanzaki RankoJun 16, 20162 votes

that change would be better without her AP ratio increase

why does she need that? she doesn't even build AP it doesn't make sense

Athenes LuluJun 16, 20162 votes

If anything, it's her bases that makes her solo lane so OP, so the ratio buff does nothing.

Though I'm guessing they don't want hurt their little ~~no weakness~~ Lulu solo lane that they have treasured for years because they "create diversity" and "are fun to watch". A % minion reduced damage at earlier ranks would've solved most of such issues, but nope xd!

GaleWinUnleashedJun 15, 20161 votes

The Q change seems really odd to me. I honestly can't tell if they're trying to affect solo or support Lulu with that one. All it does is increase damage on the first target(s) hit by a .2 ratio (and decrease damage on subsequent targets by a .01 ratio). Support Lulu doesn't build enough AP for it to matter, but it doesn't seem to do much for solo lane Lulu either. Bit more poke damage, but only if you hit the opponent before the bolt hits a minion, which should be relatively rare.

It just doesn't make any sense to me. Does solo Lulu need a buff to poking? It doesn't affect waveclear hardly at all, so poke must be the motivation, but I can't see why that's needed.

All of the other changes to her are clearly direct buffs, but all of this at once just seems like it might be too much. I'd have been happy with just the base movement speed increase and nothing else.

Finding TeemoJun 16, 20161 votes

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The Q change seems really odd to me. I honestly can't tell if they're trying to affect solo or support Lulu with that one. All it does is increase damage on the first target(s) hit by a .2 ratio (and decrease damage on subsequent targets by a .01 ratio). Support Lulu doesn't build enough AP for it to matter, but it doesn't seem to do much for solo lane Lulu either. Bit more poke damage, but only if you hit the opponent before the bolt hits a minion, which should be relatively rare.

It just doesn't make any sense to me. Does solo Lulu need a buff to poking? It doesn't affect waveclear hardly at all, so poke must be the motivation, but I can't see why that's needed.

All of the other changes to her are clearly direct buffs, but all of this at once just seems like it might be too much. I'd have been happy with just the base movement speed increase and nothing else.

Pretty sure it will hurt support Lulu a lot, 30% damage reduction for hitting a minion or two sounds pretty devastating. The AP ratios won't help at all. Still have 2 weeks left, hopefully it will get better.

GaleWinUnleashedJun 16, 20161 votes

I think I entirely forgot to account for the base damage, and looked only at the AP ratio. Not good. 30% less damage to all subsequent targets wrecks her waveclear. At least the whimsy thing compensates for that, and of course the base movespeed change.