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A discussion about marksmen

Kaìju·3/6/2018, 3:32:36 AM·1 votes·263 views

I've been saying it for some time and normally get a few upvotes so I thought I would talk about it here.

With the mid season update focused on opening bot to mages we face a few issues. One of them is that if Marksmen can't go bot some of them can't be played at all. Here is my proposed solution.

If Marksmen gain more solo survivability and agency, they can then be played outside not and thus can be replaced as the duo lane carry. However to keep them in line they should suffer damage nerfs. I play a lot of Marksman and would gladly take a pretty good sized damage nerf for more self reliability. Marksmen players don't like being chained to their team and their team often doesn't like being slaves to the carry. If we buff Marksmen to be more self sufficient in keeping themselves alive, then they can be replaced as the key carry and they gain agency. The team doesn't have to slave over them and the Marksman is no longer shackled behind their supports and tanks.

Would anyone else be open to something like this?

12 Comments

Critmaster Garen3/6/2018, 3:19:54 PM2 votes

having to share their lane with non marksmen doesnt automatically make the existing bot lane marksmen unviable.

youre exaggerating.

the goal isnt to make it impossible for marksmen to lane on bot, but to make other alternatives viable. if you personally want to play a marksman on bot every single game, then that will still be possible.

you will just have to get used to a bunch of new non marksman matchups you will run into.

Rewt3/6/2018, 3:42:09 AM1 votes

they would still be squishy champs with very little escape power. which makes them easy pickings for ganks if they dont have a duo partner to save them.

Kaioko3/6/2018, 3:23:20 PM1 votes

Alright first off -- who the hell started the whole "agency" this "agency" that thing. Agency has a specific definition and 90% of the time people are using it wrong and quite frankly just sound stupid. The word wasn't used a few weeks ago, why is it being tossed around so much now?

Secondly -- the problem with marksman is not so much their survivability as it is their items. You could remove the bulk of their base damage and they still would be an issue with just their auto attacks. Giving them extra survivability is not a good idea, especially since they'll probably thrive off of top lane more so than mid.

vgamedude3/6/2018, 9:12:54 PM1 votes

I would be fine with anything to make marskmen similar to every other champion and have to deal with the same things as every other champion. I don't mind, watching, playing, or playing against anything other than auto attacking BS marksmen who get to be the solo force bot lane and the only force behind winning the game post 20.

IF marksmen could be made similar to everyone else in more ways then I imagine it would allow more diversity bot and the champ pool to be more flexible.