"Janna mid is uninteractive" but isn't Janna support also uninteractive?

Kaìju·Oct 3, 2017·4 votes·413 views

Just got crushed by Janna Draven bot and like skill is heavily involved, they played it overall better sure, but I did everything I could to get CS, play safe, avoid fighting, and we still just got fucked up. And that was when I realized. She carried her team, she shielded and healed and we couldn't do a thing to stop her. And I realized, isn't that just as uninteractive as her being mid? When she can win team fights by just pressing E on the ADC, Q, and R when she needs to from the very very back? How is her doing that any different that her playing mid and just wave clearing with Q? Is it because there's two or three more buttons to press?

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The Last BalladOct 3, 20172 votes

Interactive =/= able to kill her easily or ignore her strength.

Janna mid would sit under tower, clear waves, and would kite around the tower if you decided to dive her(which was your only choice for fighting her unless you were the likes of Xerath, Ziggs, or Lux. Then she would just shield and dodge your attacks with her ms). Maybe come out to murder you with her jungler.

Janna bot can be poked out easily, and does not have the tools to deal with the likes of Soraka Sona Zyra Bard ... basically poke or sustain champs. She does, however, have the tools to deal with dives and engages of any kind. And as a support(especially with the q damage nerfs) she doesn't even have the option to just sit under tower and clear waves because the adc is the one who decides how the minions will be farmed, and they tend to like to do it by the enemy tower(for some reason). And regardless of whether she takes item 3301 or item 3303 she has to enter, at the very least, her minion wave to get her gold.

Not to mention, Draven is one of the best adc's for her to support. His highly aggressive playstyle makes up for her passive-aggressive one, and now she can go on the offensive, keeping you off her adc even as her adc mashes his foot into your face.

Against a Janna, you do not want to engage in fights, you want to siege. Whittle the enemy team down, little by little till they can't fight you. Then take an objective.

So sure, if by "interactive" you mean "able to be dived or have a fight forced upon her", then no she isn't very interactive by herself(her allies might still force a unwise fight, and she can't peel through stupid) because her strength is bent to avoiding that exact situation. But if by "interactive" you mean "can be fought", then yes, she is interactive. She wants to fight you early, and protect her allies late. You just can't win against her by any ol' strategy. Like how you can't beat a Soraka though a poke based comp. (Technically you can, but it has as much of a chance of succeeding as running a comp that relies on one or two engagers against a Janna.)

So either poke her out, or have 3-4 people who stagger their engages to overwhelm her(Leona and Reneckton bot [sg-janna] It was horrible).

KaìjuOct 4, 20171 votes

I appreciate your lengthy post, I get what you mean and you raise a very good point. My pessimistic attitude however has already resigned to lose though since for whatever reason ever since I started to play more from my Warframe break, I've been playing with a lot of divers like Thresh and get stomped a lot. So I'll just be playing AD Nid jungle or something until the meta changes because despite being an ADC main this feels like the least fun meta I've played in a long time. I don't feel like I'm able to carry when every game comes down to who picked what and I have maybe a bruiser and no champ that can really abuse ardent. But I do appreciate your answer, really.

The Last BalladOct 4, 20171 votes

Yeah, this may be a great meta for me, but diver or engage champ mains are going to hate this.

Lets hope next season its a bit more "fair" for everyone.

Though I do plan on going for a Janna build focused on Glacial Agument, and that gives item 3030 a 18 second cooldown(through ingenious hunter, cosmic insight, and item 2045 for a total of 56% item cdr). Its evil.

KaìjuOct 5, 20171 votes

I wanna try Glacial Aug on ADC, probably on Caitlyn since I really like it and want to see what I can get away with. Also it's gonna be amazing I think on Urgot as a more tank centric option to Press The Attack.