Can we get a support focused around doing damage?

only zhule··1 votes·437 views

If i had a better idea of abilities and all that this would go under concepts and creations.

God i want a support who's focus is on damaging the enemy champions. Now i'm not talking Lux going bottom as a full AP "support". i'm talking about a champion who's team benefit is to wear down the enemy through constant minor damage. You are rarely ever afraid of them blowing away 40% of your health pool in .5 seconds, but you always have to worry about getting ground down and killed by the enemy committing to a fight rather then just a single hit trade. I want a champion who when you run into them alone in river (or wherever) you go "ok i KNOW i can kill them BUT, unless they are trash, they are going to stall me for a good 20-45 seconds AND shave off at least 40% of my health pool.

I want a champion who is not the current two flavors of support; passive heal/buff bot and I managed to land 1 CC... there goes most of your life.

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Baron Barian2 votes

So....a burst mage?

What you're asking isn't really anything that's not available in the game already. And if the champion's purpose is to primarily do damage, then it's support is, at best, a secondary role. Damage and support is kind of two different fields.

only zhule1 votes

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So....a burst mage?

I don't know how you got burst mage unless you are only responding to the title.

Preferably it would be a character with two DoT effects, or one that isn't either on a 8 second cooldown that BARELY beats base health regen and lifesteal against minions or chunking you for 5% HP per tick for 4-6 ticks on a 20+ second cooldown.

Really the tread is more poking at the idea that supports as a class are not allowed to do damage. IE everyone flips their shit when the support, who built like a damage dealer, chunks someone for 30-50% with a full rotation.

Baron Barian1 votes

Oh! That description reminds me of a Dota hero, Venomancer. Like some mage supports, he can deal decent damage, but has utility that makes him played typically as a support.

But what he has that could make for an interesting champion ability, is a poison ultimate ability that damages, but can't reduce health below 1, so while the ult itself can hurt, it can't actually kill by itself, allowing for teammates to finish them off and earn the kill themselves.

TehNACHO1 votes

Well, semantics. There's Support the champion archetype (Sona Soraka Janna Lulu) and Support the role. Designing a champion that's specifically capable of early game damage despite being underleveled, low on gold, and working off a partner is technically unique. Not saying it's a direction that should be approached, but it is an unfulfilled niche.

Takazaki1 votes

weZyra haveVelkoz plentySona ofMorgana thoseAnnie

only zhule1 votes

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weZyra haveVelkoz plentySona ofMorgana thoseAnnie

oh look 4 mages and one support, really hammering home my point.

(maybe Morg counts as a support now it has been a while since i last saw her go mid lane).

Takazaki1 votes

zyra has not been a mid laner for sessions

velkoz had flexed into bot lane since his release

if you think morgana isnt a support then we are playing 2 different games

annie literally defined what it ment to be a support mage.

damage support are just mages sent bot lane. dont pretend like they are anything else

Athenes Lulu1 votes

just pick mages botlane

only zhule1 votes

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just pick mages botlane

but that misses the point. everyone will accept if a "mage" is doing damage to them. No one gets angry when a character 100% capable of being played mid, and most of the time is played in that role, does decent to heavy damage to them. But SO HELP ME GOD if Leona ,Sona ,Soraka , Bard ,Braum , etc.... blows a full spell rotation on top of 2-3 damage items, that is unacceptable for the community at large.

FourIsTheNumber1 votes

Bard Brand Karma Morgana Velkoz Zyra

JustMonika131 votes

No.

Attticus Finch1 votes

Completely terrible idea. If you want to shit out damage there are literally four other roles who facilitate that.

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