Can we please bring Lissandra up to Swain standard?

GreyfellD··4 votes·746 views

The two champions are virtually the same idea now. Both high CC, mid-low range champions however Swain has a superior kit to Lissandra in almost every conceivable way. Better passive, better cooldowns, better utility/CC and better tankiness/sustain. Lissandra has none of these tools and is really struggling to find any relevance recently.

Can Lissandra please be brought up to Swain's standard.

15 Comments

The Blue Rajah12 votes

In what world does Swain have better cc than Lissandra?

Oleandervine5 votes

My thoughts exactly. His CC is really conditional and extremely avoidable. Lissandra gets close to you and presses W and you're rooted, or then presses R and you're stunned. Her CC is FAR superior to his. Their only similarity is that they both throw out claws.

PhearBunny6 votes

Lissandra is a amazing champion, the problem is, shes a anti-assassin pick, in a meta where assassins are terrible. Which translates to Lissandra to only being viable, when the other team picks assassins. And at that point, while yeah shes an anti assassin mage. Everything is anti-assassin atm, so she doesn't really shine. Still functions well in her role, but assassins are so garbage that there is no reason to pick something like an "anti assassin mage".

The Minion hunt1 votes

zed can trounce this champ always has been able to.

Mig895 votes

She counters Zed particularly hard tho

GreyfellD1 votes

Depends on the player and using her self-Zhonyas correctly

The Minion hunt1 votes

If zhyona's alone countered zed, which it does in a team fight not a duel / it helps. Zed still out ranges her and has more burst even without his ult. Ever been all in by a zed pre six by a w-e-q-w-aa-ignite cuz you weren't above 75% health.

PhearBunny1 votes

Zed death marks in....Lissandra ults him. Zed dies right there. That's why shes anti assassin. Assassins need to dive in, and shes just sitting there waiting to R you when you do.

It leaves the assassin with two choices. Go in and die. vs Do nothing.

The Minion hunt1 votes

item 3155 personally this item, imo is the most broken in all of league, way back I built it when it had no upgrade, now it does. also with the nullifying orb. and like I said zed has better poke.

ExternalLink2 votes

Why would we want to bring anything up to Swains level? Dude needs nerfing.

The Minion hunt1 votes

Problem is higher damage in game all together. And he kit is all in your face. I think she either needs more hard cc like her w stuns rather then snares but for something like .5 seconds. and or a complete rework.

Frozen Diva1 votes

Yeah it's especially terrible when you see how Swain performs in comparison to Lissandra. She needs more survivability. Like... a lot more.

Dead flag blues1 votes

Would be fun for her to have something like Trundle 's pillar in her kit. Maybe in her passive in some kind of way

Hextech OwI1 votes

Isn't Swain supposed to be a tanky drain mage and Lissandra a tanky burst mage?

And î oop1 votes

lissandra is supposed to be burst mage so by the definition she should be squishy so she should get MUCH more damage and get much less tankyness. Tbh i hope they decide to give her almost full game update ( maybe small VU )

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