is it too much to ask for kha zix nerfs

RankOneUganda·Dec 28, 2017·9 votes·1,635 views

is the champion not too strong or am I a little insane or something. Can I get a little context from meddler on their plans with kha zix. because the ult evolution simply gives him a better version of eve passive. with mobi boots. its almost permanent to walk from bush to bush without being spotted.

like am sorry but hes just too overbearing at the moment along with lee sin. Lee sin has almost 50% winrate and a 25% playrate. by lee sin standards. this is as busted as he gets. he never goes above 50% winrate. lee sin is usualy around 47-48 balanced.

if you don't nerf his damage. please nerf his ult invis duration and let us punish him for fucking up his position. his ult and bush passive duration last a little too long. and currently doesn't seem like he cares about isolation damage when duskblade gives him more damage than that.

22 Comments

Daddy AntsDec 28, 20178 votes

item 3147 is the problem.

TiboldDec 28, 20173 votes

Not just Duskblade. The entire Lethality System

Z3SleeperDec 28, 20171 votes

In Kha’s case, it’s def just Duskblade, since he can proc it multiple times in a fight. While it definitely highlights his “single target assassination” style it does a bit much for him.

Same reasony why Kayn is too good with Dusk. He procs it twice in a rotation.

JoeMGDec 28, 20171 votes

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In Kha’s case, it’s def just Duskblade, since he can proc it multiple times in a fight. While it definitely highlights his “single target assassination” style it does a bit much for him.

Same reasony why Kayn is too good with Dusk. He procs it twice in a rotation.

Truth. Right now Shadow Assassin can blow people up just as fast as Kha. I wonder if Riot has any plans to nerf Electrocutes AD ratios as well. Either that or lethality as a whole need to be looked at.

Daddy AntsDec 28, 20171 votes

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Not just Duskblade. The entire Lethality System

What if Lethality only reduced bonus armor? and didn't act like flat pen and eat into base armor too?

YumaS2AstralDec 28, 20172 votes

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What if Lethality only reduced bonus armor? and didn't act like flat pen and eat into base armor too?

The entire point of lethality is to be able to do more damage to squishies, which have little to no bonus armor. If it was changed to bonus armor, why pick it over item 3035 and its upgrades? Better yet, why pick it at all?

LordGeovanniDec 28, 20171 votes

Its that lethality is too good even when you build armor not the other way around. lethality can more than delete an item 3025 and still give ad from the items

BobaFlautistDec 30, 20171 votes

No, you're wrong. As long as you don't have more lethality than your target has total armor, lethality is numerically more powerful the less armor your target has.

LordGeovanniDec 31, 20171 votes

its not the only the lethality power but that the lethality can negate a whole item slot even though item 3071 can do that versus a tank. Stats check is a bad policy right but things like this get a pass. but you cant reduce adc attack speed because it feels bad for them.

GayFluffyUnicornDec 28, 20173 votes

Kha zix is insanely busted and as always a month later people finally seem to catch up with the meta. Already told before and i'm still right about it. What they need to do is nerf/change his R evolve and possible nerf his Q dmg especially early game. As it is right now kha zix can pretty much counterjungle everyone and kill them from lvl 3 on. A bit early for how he is supposed to scale with his evolution mechanic.

greekvandaLDec 29, 20171 votes

as busted as he gets he says lmao community is becoming more and more unaware of the real problems. Aka stupid item passives,tanks and adcs. You can counterjungle three or four times better in the jungle with a fucking adc. Fucking Ezreal has killed me more than any Kha onetrick has the past year even during the time kha was ridiculous early season.

AR URFDec 28, 20172 votes

They need to make it so stealth has counterplay. But as it is now stealth has no counter play so stealth champs have the advantage. It's kind of a big fuck you from riot just like everything else they've changed this pre-season.

OxyrottenDec 28, 20172 votes

His rework was a minor nerf and indirect nerf.

But the stealth change was a major buff to stealth in general which gave him a strong buff.

So eh. What's his pickrate? I don't see him all that often.

Heckin SupportDec 28, 20172 votes

I don't disagree, but I'd still rather go against a Kha than a Rengar...

adtrlDec 28, 20171 votes

I agree, I've had too many times where he would 1 shot me out of no where, even if you did see him comming, thanks to his ult and duskblade.

ResterDec 28, 20171 votes

Maybe a slight reduction to his passive stealth when he passes through brush would be nice, or the movespeed reduction. It is true with high movespeed he can run from brush to brush without being detected at all, even with good ward placement.

HügöDec 28, 20171 votes

I don't think Kha Zix needs a nerf. The problem is still duskblade, but you can't nerf it or AD assassins will fall back to being complete useless. This item is to much of a bandaid fix "We don't care take this item now you are all fixed".

YumaS2AstralDec 28, 20172 votes

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I don't think Kha Zix needs a nerf. The problem is still duskblade, but you can't nerf it or AD assassins will fall back to being complete useless. This item is to much of a bandaid fix "We don't care take this item now you are all fixed".

Or they could just buff AD assassins afterwards.

Making them rely on Duskblade to be able to assassinate is not healthy at all for the game.

BlakexEkalbDec 28, 20171 votes

Nerf his ult? Please know the numbers for champions before you complain about them. Kha's first ultimate gives him only 1 second of invisibility. If evolved, it goes to 2 seconds. How much lower could you get from 2? 1.5? A .5 increase doesn't benefit the player, it feels the same as a 1 second ultimate. As for his damage, Kha'zix is supposed to be a high damage champion, however if you're near any allied minions or champions, it significantly decreases his damage. The problem isn't Kha'zix, but rather duskblade. Kha'zix is ok for the few couple levels, but once you get duskblade, you're able to 1 shot squishies without many problems.

KoutetsujôDec 28, 20171 votes

I got deleted by a lvl 5 double longsword khazix Yes the champ is balanced and duskblade is the issue

BlakexEkalbDec 29, 20171 votes

Then don't be caught out in the open? Like I said, this champion is made to input damage, stay by minions or allied champions. Also Electrocute is what makes the damage seem even crazier.

KoutetsujôDec 29, 20171 votes

Hard To be with allies and minions when you are the other jungler but ok seems like you are a khazix player