Kayn's R should show where he's going to come out from it at least 0.5 seconds before.

Seviel Vorose··12 votes·542 views

When he ults, there's nothing you can do. He has complete control over it and over his CDs while taking no punishment. Predicting when and where he'll come out from it is nearly impossibile, and he'll most probably take another free spells rotation before you can even cc him. This design is completely toxic.

P.s what are walls? Easy ganks man.

13 Comments

SparklingLama2 votes

Man i cant see akali while she moves in her circle shes toxic and needs to be changed....LOL cant play against a champ just ban if you don't like what they do

Catastrop4 votes

Lolwut? That's a terrible example. Akali gets the shimmer effect when she takes damage in shroud, that's clear counterplay right there in order to get some idea of where she is.

Hammermancer2 votes

but it's targeted

Meep Man2 votes

I disagree. The entire point of an Assassin is to be slippery and use your moves to be hard to predict in order to get to your target and kill them. These kinds of nerfs are what made Assassins so underwhelming after the nerfs to Lethality since they were basically just squishy Fighters with a little more mobility. If we are going to nerf Kayn, we shouldn't nerf him in a way that makes him an Assassin, but rather that which an Assassin doesn't need to be successful, but still be hurt by it when nerfed. For example, a nerf to his base health and/or armor would hurt him a good bit. A nerf to his wall healing would hurt him in the long run. Perhaps a slight cool down increase on his R. Stuff like this would nerf him in a meaningful way that doesn't prevent him from being successful or change how Kayn plays too much.

higura2 votes

I disagree. The entire point of an Assassin is to be slippery and use your moves to be hard to predict in order to get to your target and kill them.

no...assassins are suppose to be able to burst down tagets thats alone.

the whole point of support and tanks is to disengage for their team...whats the point if the assassin can just jump in right next to the tank/support 1v4-5, kill target and get out with little to no risk?...

thats the whole problem with the assassin meta, only damage matter, because the tank / support can't do jackshit as long assassin are just allowed to ignore them untill after the high damage taget is already dead.

what made assassins weak was that adc's had (and still does) a ton of items that allowed them to duel them even without a tank or support around them, mainly crit and lifesteal.

if assassins want to take down a taget in the middle of the enemy team should they have to wait until their own team engage for them and soak up the CC.

what you are basicly saying here is "it's totally okay that assassins only counter classes is unreliable and ineffectiv at doing their job, they just have to gamble their CC and hope the assassin fucks up" which is complete BS.

it's one thing for champions to have tools to help them play around weaknesses, it's another, when those tools allow the champion to control them.

JackMcSnipeyz2 votes

Fine, make evrery ability telegraphed then. He's an assassin, he's supposed to be slippery and hard to predict.

Nyarlathοtep

Nope he is a skirmisher. Assassin have tools disengage after they engage.

Moonfall Saber1 votes

He's both depending on what form he takes.

Nyarlathοtep

Even SA is more or less diver because once again, he has no way to escape after he commits. PS gotta love ignorant people.

Dr Dog2 votes

i dont have a problem with knowing when he comes out its ust the fact that hes the one assassin that can miss his entire spell rotation and just auto you ult then get a second chance its just stupid, assassins should take skill and have to land their spells not miss them all then get a second chance

Muzét1 votes

If you take a closer look at the scythe above your head you can guess when and where he's gonna come out.

ValyrianBlade1 votes

Direction seems unfair, makes it too easy to punish him for ult'ing.

I think however the time should be shortened, he seems to stay in his ult for ages... reduce the variability for when he comes out (and possibly his cds won't all be back when he exits).

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