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Kayne's E and Singed's W are adding on to current issues.

Trash MammaI··1 votes·537 views

I find the new champ interesting and love that singed got buffed but honestly the way you went about it is just adding onto more BS in this game.

Talon's retarded mobility on his E is infuriating and nearly impossible to beat when it comes to chasing/getting chased. It's not fun in the slightest to be on the receiving end of such mobility (You could argue it's never fun to be on the receiving end). It's just asking to have issues. Aurelion sol has a similar ability but I mean who tf plays that guy anyway

Singed's W while it is useful now (I use to go without leveling it until I was forced to cause it didn't really help) now has the grounded affect. The same this Cass's W(Or is it E?) has. That status effect in all honesty is just pure bullshit. ESPECIALLY since it's AoE. Not only does it completely remove mobility but some champs who have skills that aren't NECESSARILY meant to be used as mobility are shut off.

Amumu Q Alistar W XinZhao E

are just a few examples so you get what I mean. They can be used as mobility, yes, but in most cases it's meant for engaging or offensively in general. Not to be hop around the map. Cass I never really found busted excluding her grounded ability. Being able to shut off an entire teams ability to engage/disengage with a single ability is too powerful

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Nahui2 votes

Xin zhao's is meant to be mobility. It's a straight point-click dash. Amumu's is also, being a skillshot dash if a certain hit box is hit, such as Nautilus' Q.

And it's a necessary counter to mobility. Currently mobility's only counter is point-click CC, and that's far worse than skillshot grounding effects.

It's also on singed. It gives him real purpose to be picked. Not like they're throwing it on yasuo. Are you really thinking singed is gonna hurt the game by having this on him? A completely thematic proposition?

Trash MammaI1 votes

I meant mobility as in using it to get around the map faster. Compare Xin's E to say, Zed's shadow. That's what I was meaning

I agree mobility needs to be countered but this "grounded" effect is just overboard

As I said I like that Singed got the buffs but I don't think it was a proper one.

Press W. Engage. Enemy team can't do anything.

It's the equivalent of Cho'gath getting a full team silence off or Blitz landing a hook late game. You just feel cheated at that point.

Nahui1 votes

There are different mobilities, sure, but it's all mobility. Shouldn't punish one over the other necessarily.

I don't see how grounded is overboard. If Singed is grounding your entire team, I question your team's positioning in a small, tiny circle. If Cass is W'ing your entire team, I question how Cass was able to get so close to position her W perfectly behind your team since placing it on is a simple, slightly slowed step out of it.

They're effective counters to mobility which is widely known as a big problem in this game since immobility rarely has an edge over mobility unless grossly overpowered through utility or damage. I've played lots of cass, seen lots of cass, and seen lots of pro play cass. The instance where she just ends a team fight due to her W is about nonexistent. It's a cooldown you need to be mindful of, and need to position knowing it could come.

cyberchade1 votes

its cass W that has the grounded. i think the grounded on Cass W is fine due to the minimum cast range but i dont like it on singed the mobility problem i dont agree with it just takes some control force talon into using a wall poorly can mean he isnt a part of a fight or a free kill Kayn the spell is short only letts him go past one maybe two walls

Xeno Dope1 votes

While I get where you're coming from with this... Singed getting a ground ability is one of the only things letting him be able to kill people, as more and more champions that come out have a lot of mobility to escape from him effortlessly. ie.Camille Zed Fizz Fiora

Singed has been in a bad spot these last couple of years, where only the people putting a lot of time into mastering him have been able to consistently play him at a decent to good level. These changes are exactly what Singed needed to stay relevant as more and more high-mobility focused champions are arriving at the rift.

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