4 top winrate supports all rush ardent censor.

Some context missing here, three of those champs have always been in the top few winrates amongst supports even when they're balanced.

I'm not saying you're wrong, I do think Censor's too strong, but this is hardly a conclusive point.

Well Janna's win rate has been over i believe 53% for the longest time, it's not like she just becamse the best support overnight

what do you mean support items cant be OP

ardent cancer is not OP its just adcs that r broke ;^^)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

you have angered the e-girls now.better throw in some high dificulty champions to repel them

They also go coin, and like LankPants said, three of them always are amongst the top support winrates.

Ardent probably needs some more changes/nerfs, and coin also still gives to much gold , but it's nostly that enchanters could use some work on their kits.

If it just was the items beeing op, when why are half of the ardent/coin useing supports below 50% win?

They were top 4 all season since redemption. So... idk where youve been

best bet is to wait until pre season

I highly doubt they'll do much nerfing/changes to it anytime soon™

If we dumpstered every ADC censor wouldn't be a problem.

Wait, people are actually complain about supports?, damn the league I remember is long gone.....

As a support main I can say without question AC is broken asf. Janna has a 55+ % winrate from bronze all the way up through diamond/master/challenger.

Ardent cancer* Locket is retarded aswell though.

yep every game i had today where we had a cc tanky support vs a censer one, we dominated all game untill the adc got ie + zeal item and then had a lulu/janna/sona/nami shielding them with censer making them un fucking killable and we lost the game.

Don't tell me ? or instead

You probably haven't realized it (once I tell you you'll probably be like "oh... right") but 7.18 is the Worlds patch, so they didn't wanna flip things on their heads. Expect them to nerf the item (and other things) in 7.19 almost for sure.

This is perhaps not a popular opinion but I think support power has moved too far in the direction of helping others. We have so many tools to help adc's that the adc role becomes OP (more so than it's already pretty strong right now). and essentially unkillable and most of my games revolve around who's adc has more experience. Supports by contrast when alone or even without the ADC are fairly useless. They aren't really champions. They can't be used to split-push, roam, engaging is pretty sketchy cause if you mess up your team loses fight guaranteed by not having a support behind your adc, even warding solo. Everything they do needs a team around them. (the squishy supports whom are OP right now).

This leaves them as more baby-sitters than ever before which makes the role less fun (objectively) as my only correct choice in 90% of situations is to follow the adc around all game and ignore most of the rest of my team. This is primarily an issue in soloQ where team cohesion isn't that strong but it's still an epidemic in higher league.

tldr: make supports have less tools for helping adc's (ardent censor, extra buffed shields, speed ups, etc.) but compensate them with some more base power.

Not sure what you're smoking, buddy. Sion definitely doesn't rush Ardent Censer.

Although, the Enchanter Sion build can be pretty fun. Trolly, but fun.

Sion is barely played though. I don't think it is enough to get a win rate for him at support lol