Having trouble beating Nasus? As a long time Nasus main, let me help you.

HateDaddy··61 votes·10,383 views

Hello there Gameplay and Balance, I am a long time GDer and long time Nasus main. I've been playing Nasus since I started back in season 2 and I haven't stopped maining him. He's by far my most played champion. Currently I'm platinum 1 because I haven't grinded much but I was diamond last season and with my long term experience with playing him and playing him at high levels, I truly believe I can help you out.

It's pretty odd for someone to make a guide designed for specifically beating the champion you main, huh? It is. But I've seen a lot of complaining about Nasus in general on all fronts from here, GD, reddit (yuck) and other league sources. Naturally this is a bit bias and I get that, but I think Nasus is pretty darned balanced at the moment. However, he's a unique champion with a much older design and I believe there's a lot of misinformation that's spread around about him and I'm here to hopefully clear some of that up and more.

Note: I've broken these into sections because I realize not everyone wants to read this entire thing and perhaps they're only looking for certain information that pertains to their interests.

The Nasus basics


So let's talk about Nasus. Let's talk about his basic strengths, weaknesses, build pathes etc. In order to do it though, let's just go over his Kit on a basic level.

#Soul Eater

With his passive, Nasus starts the game with 10% Lifesteal that scales up during the game (10%/15%/20% at levels 1/7/13)

#Siphoning Strike Q

His bread and butter spell and the spell in almost every scenario he will be maxing first. We all know about this, it's an on-hit AA reset that scales infinitely with last hitting minions, jungle mobs, baron/dragon and champions. He gains +3 damage for normal minions, wards and small jungle mob monsters and +6 for killing large minions (cannons and supers), large jungle mobs, baron/dragon and champions.

Note: he does not gain damage for last hitting structures.

#Wither - W

The spell that most people consider his most frustrating ability to play against. It's a targeted 5 second soft CC that slows MS up to 95% over the course of 5 seconds and halves attack speed at 47.5% over that course. Initially it's a fairly long CD ability until he gets CDR. This is one of the few last Anti carry spells left in the game. If Nasus ever gets reworked, I expect this is the ability that will completely change and go away.

#Spirit Fire - E

This is a pretty versatile spell. But it's mana costs are fucking restricting. It cost 75 mana at level 1 alone and at leve 5, 115 - that's more than most champion's ults. This isn't a spell he can spam usually, even late game it runs him oom doing so. It's an incredibly strong ability with aoe Magic damage and flat armor shred. In some bad match-ups, it's not uncommon for Nasus to max this first and shove constantly (and if he does, his early wave shoving is amongst the best). But still, a powerful spell but and very draining on his mana pool.

#Fury of the Sands R

This combined with wither is what makes him the best melee duelist in the game. This spell gives him a huge chunk of health upon casting. It does aoe Magic damage over time, %max HP at that (3/4/5% iirc and capped at 240 per second). It also takes this damage dealt and converts it into bonus attack damage (capped at 300 iirc). Even when behind, not many champions can square off with him from 100-0 with this ability. It's basically a better version of Renektons Dominus. Keep in mind, which often is forgotten, while Fury of the Sands is active, Nasus gains 50 Auto Attack range (175 Max melee range) that also applies on Siphoning Strike. This is pretty damn big and people forget this.

So we've gotten that out of the way, so let's begin. You have to first understand Nasus and we've started with explaining his kit. Nasus is an immobile melee sustained DPS fighter with huge burst on his Q with enough farm + Trinity. He excels at dueling, the best melee duelist in the game and one of the best overall duelists in the game. He's a tower taking, split pushing monster if he gets ahead. If he gets behind, he basically only commits to laning and pushing and often times he won't push much for fear of staying further behind.


Nasus - mid game God, late game front liner

So let's talk about the legendary late game Nasus. I'm going to say this and it may shock you: late game Nasus is overrated. In fact, for 5v5s, it's really not that great. I'd say it's about average. Nasus is by far at his best mid game with farm and I know this sounds startling but I'll explain. If you manage to get between 275-400 bonus damage on your Q by 20 minutes with a completed tank item and the workings of a second one, you are a god at this point. Why? Well for starters, as a solo laner you are highest level in the game which gives you better overall stats since you're natural scaling is ahead of the curve. Nobody has any sort of %pen item yet (unless ungodly fed) so you're hard as shit to kill. Supports, tank junglers and mids don't have the levels to spam their CC just yet and they likely don't have the CDR to reach it. Squishy champions natural armor is shit at this point and you've got a 2-3 second physical damage nuke that's popping for somewhere around 600-700 damage every time you use it and it's hard as shit to peel you. This is also when your ults %burn and Es Magic damage and flat armor shread are at their strongest as well.

When you talk about shutting down Nasus, it's impossible to shut anyone down. If the game goes on long enough, any champion will get back into it. For Nasus, this is what you want to avoid allowing to happen. You want to keep him in the area of 150-200 bonus damage on his Q by 20 minutes and down in levels as best as possible. If you do this, you've got a very good chance of winning the game. And depending on who you are, which I will touch on in a bit, you might want to roam and snowball other lanes to end the game quicker while Nasus is behind and trying to catch up. This way, you're forcing Nasus to pick between farming and scaling up and getting back into it or roam, putting him further behind, to prevent his team from losng the game as his enemy laner is ahead and making things happen on the map.

For some champions though, you simply can't deal with Nasus. A trynd, Irelia or Shen are going to need a lot of ganks to have any shot of dealing with Nasus. His kit is just naturally strong against their kits. But a champion like Singed, Cho'Gath or even Trundle, who can't really stop him from farming if he plays it right aren't super concerned if he farms up. This is because these champions can invalidate him in teamfights at pretty much every stage of the game with their durability, dusruption or just raw stat stealing. And they get tanky enough or have enough wave clear that Nasus can't just AFK split push vs them and murder towers. So even if you aren't somebody who can't shit on Nasus from the start, understand that there are options. As Irelia or Shen, do your best to contest his CS but understand you can't stop him really. But as Irelia, you're pretty darn good mid game too. As Shen, it's a little harder because you need to peel for your carries non stop and after a certain point, your damage to Nasus is laughable and your wave clear isn't good so he can just ignore you and melt towers in front of you.

Overall, there's a lot of misconceptions about Nasus. He is a god like duelist late game but he's immobile and easy as hell to disrupt once supports have levels and items to constantly keep him immobilized. At that point, he's just a front line damage soaker, which frankly, there are much better champions for this role than Nasus. There's also the misconception that he has virtually no mana costs which is false. Yes his Q only costs 20 mana but either is 80 at all ranks, Spirit fire is 75/85/95/105/115 and his ult, like most ults, is 100. This is also with the worst starting mana pool in the game and one of the worst base mana regens. So this is what prevents him from forcing trades early, he would go oom very quickly if you forced him to use his other spells (which isn't easy to do either and he simply might not).


Match-ups

So we've kind of touched on his strengths and weaknesses and even on some of his match-ups. I'm going to spend this section on some common counterpicks and such and explain their match-ups. This won't be super in depth, just enough to give you a general understanding. And I'm not going to go over every match-up because that would take too long and several of these I haven't played in ages due to champion changes and so on, so I wouldn't even have the Insight in the first place.

Olaf - this is just his hardest lane counter. Plain and simple. Rushing armor doesn't help, you can't build Magic resist, most big ticket flat health items don't give CDR which delays him further. Basically every time you go to farm, you take a true damage nuke from him. And post 6, he's immune to wither and does a fuck ton of damage you can't deal with. You can't deal with him until you're sitting on at least 4 items, which is going to be hard as fuck to acquire against him. He's also a scary good roamer because undertow gives him insane sticking power so he assists ganks and dives very well.

Olaf is what I'd consider an all-or-nothing pick. You either shit on Nasus and decide on whether it's better to keep laning and pushing and denying him or roaming and snowballing the game or lose if you get behind. This is the best pick to go this route in my opinion.

Darius - there is room for Nasus to play around this but this is generally a painful fucking lane to deal with. DARIUS' out edge Q chunks and his good under tower harass. His E gives him the ability to pull you out of tower range and drop an AA + W + Q on you that is big damage up front and strong DOTs with three stacks of his passive. Darius does all forms of damage so itemizing against him is hard as fuck as well. And he can generally go one damage item + tank and still constantly shit on you. Like I said, there is room for Nasus to play around this (not eating outer edge Qs, trading shortly and precisely in minion waves and abusing your sustain over his lack of sustain) but it generally means you can't make one mistake. And Darius punishes mistakes harder than almost every champion I'm the game. But Darius does scream camp me, so ward galore.

Like Olaf, this is an all-or-nothing pick. If you don't deny him hardcore, your point of picking darius just went out the window.

Cassiopeia - I don't think I need to explain this. It's just a painful fucking lane that nasus can't do anything in without constant jungle pressure. And if she gets ahead, it's over. She can't kite you for eternity and she shits on your teamfight.

This is less of an all-or-nothing because of how fucking well Cass scales. But you have to be good at her.

Swain - There's just not much you can do without taking constant point and click ranged harass. And he gets incredibly tanky himself. Even with heavy MR runes, Nasus is going to constantly be chugging pots in order to hope to outsustain this. And Swain can poke the every loving shit out of Nasus under tower as well with relative safety.

Like Cass, less of an all or nothing but Swain doesn't do much when behind either and doesn't have a means of catching up quickly since his farming and wave clear is very limited, even with ult.

Fizz (Built as AD) - this is a skill match up more or less but if Fizz plays it well, it's an incredibly hard lane for Nasus. Fizz does heavy mixed damage and %dmg at that so itemizing against him is hard. Fizz is also incredibly slippery and hard to stick damage on as Nasus. Nasus needs to play this well and it's going to take a long time for him to be able to deal with the power of Fizzs burst (even as AD with his ult, he has burst) and sustained DPS

Let's be honest, it doesnt matter who he's playing against, Fizz is all or nothing.

Lulu - fuck this champion

These were some common hard counter or very difficult lanes to deal with for Nasus. I realize not everyone plays these champions and you may play others. Here's a list of champions that can do well no matter what, even if Nasus free farms.

Chogath - becomes tanky very fast. Bruiser AP cho can put out a lot of damage on Nasus that he can't mitigate and his disruption stops Nasus from doing anything in fights. And his wave clear stops Nasus from ever split pushing.

Singed - Nasus will get farmed in this lane. So will Singed. And Singed can proxy Nasus' wave forever so Nasus can't splitpush vs this without face tanking towers, which you're taking 45-50 minutes in before this becomes a thing. Singed with Rylais also destroys Nasus' teamfight as Nasus can't move.

Trundle - it's a somewhat difficult lane for Nasus but should still farm in. Trundle really isn't in danger of dying to Nasus until very late and by then it'd take too long to be worth pursuing and with Trundles ult and Q, Nasus can't just ignore him. And because of his ult, Nasus durability in teamfights is right out the window.

These are just some common picks. I didn't mention Rumble or Vlad because I don't consider them Nasus counters. They're annoying early but then Nasus gets spirit visage + Mercs and they simply can't be near him anymore. They can get ahead early and teamfight mid game when he's down but I consider both very hard to lane with and play in general. But there are still more champions that annoy him to hell and back like Teemo (AD) and solo top Vayne but those are so easy to camp it's not worth mentioning.

I hope I was able to help you guys out. I know he seems frustrating to play against and maybe at times he is, I admit my bias doesn't allow me to see this. But I think with this information, you can play against him with less anxiety. Remember, don't stress about his Q farm too much. It's just a number. You should stress on where it's at during certain points and whether or not you can hold his split push or peel him easily. If you can, it is nothing more than a number because it doesn't matter what he does. If you can't, it will require some thinking and sometimes, in games, you just lose at champ select because of bad comps. It's just part of the game.

So thanks for reading. I didn't give a tl;dr because I broke this up in sections and I realize it's a long fucking read. Again, I hope it can help. Feel free to ask questions, I can't promise I'll get to them right away but I will do my best to answer them at someone. Good luck friends.

151 Comments

LoRdJeSuS696942012 votes

Good points. His late game really is overrated--it doesn't matter how much q farm he has if you can just lock him down, armor shred him, and blow him up.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

But it doesn't matter if you can do that in fights if he manages to get to a structure at all. I don't see why Nasus players defend him so hard because he's bad in teamfights, when it's the fact towers don't stand a chance to him that's the problem.

Auz the Ripper2 votes

Currently splitpushing isn't a particularly effective strategy unless Nasus's team is built around It and even then a good hard engage comp can smash them

It's very easy to force teamfights in the meta ATM, especially considering how near useless inhibitor towers are

So it's significantly less of a problem

DJ Di08 votes

I think a lot of the complaints for Nasus are because the majority of the counters you've listed aren't all that popular (AD Fizz hype has sort of died down), and Cass is usuallly taken in the mid lane.

HateDaddy4 votes

[{quoted}](name=DJ Di0,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gML9u1k8,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2015-03-22T22:57:21.647+0000)

I think a lot of the complaints for Nasus are because the majority of the counters you've listed aren't all that popular (AD Fizz hype has sort of died down), and Cass is usuallly taken in the mid lane.

Nasus isn't a very common top lane pick either, let's be honest. He isn't played in competitive play at all. So arguing that, it's not really relevant because it's solo queue and you can play anything regardless of how common it is/isn't. And Cass is a flex pick, she's usually mid but she's a nightmare counterpick to immobile melee champs like Nasus or Singed.

Stephenizgod1 votes

Actually in Silver he is picked or banned quite often. I always go Darius against him and stomp lane but then my team starts to feed him somehow and then i get the "omg you said you could handle nasus" comments... Any advice on how to deal with him when your team is losing all their lanes? Like i always beast on him with either Garen or Darius, but then i need to roam and boom next time i go top lane he tripled his stacks and its a bit harder to kill him. Eventually he has enough tank and damage to be unstoppable, i try to stop him from farming but when i do my team either feeds him or loses every teamfight...

HateDaddy3 votes

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Actually in Silver he is picked or banned quite often. I always go Darius against him and stomp lane but then my team starts to feed him somehow and then i get the "omg you said you could handle nasus" comments... Any advice on how to deal with him when your team is losing all their lanes? Like i always beast on him with either Garen or Darius, but then i need to roam and boom next time i go top lane he tripled his stacks and its a bit harder to kill him. Eventually he has enough tank and damage to be unstoppable, i try to stop him from farming but when i do my team either feeds him or loses every teamfight...

Well let's look at it like this, just to at least ease the anxiety of Nasus stacking

If your team is losing lane hard and you win lane and as a result, abort laning to try and bring them back in it, you're going to SPEND A LOT OF TIME trying to get them back in it, leaving Nasus to farm. It doesn't really matter who the enemy is at that, if they have that kind of time to get back into because you decide to stop pressuring them, they will get back in it. That's not so much a Nasus issue as it is a general gameplay thing.

Here's the thing about Darius. My friend Hawke (Charles Barklius), a diamond 1 Darius main and quite arguably one of the best darius players on the planet goes brutalizer + frozen heart against ADs. This is effective as fuck against Nasus because now Darius, with three forms of damage and nuke power, is both a damage monster and incredibly durable. I think this is your best bet build-path wide. Maybe completing either a Hydra or TF at some point after this. This keeps you durable enough to deal with him for quite some time.

As for roaming, it has to be quick and decisive. If there's nothing there, don't waste time. Darius has a harder time roaming but he can be good at it if you look for dives for a shoved in mid lane or flanks if the enemy mid laner is shoving your mid laners lane in. Be quick and go for the kill, take the tower and see where Nasus is (ideally you want to take his tower before roaming and don anything past roaming like dragon for example). If his tower is down and he's freezig top, after you've killed mid, take the mid tower and take dragon and go back to top. You have enough gold at this point where he can't fuck with you still. Ward up and keep pressuring.

You gotta win early with Darius in my opinion, his teamfight is so underwhelming and snowball dependent that if you don't, he's just too inconsistent to be a threat after a certain point. Do your best to keep up the pressure in all lanes, Nasus is going to be faced with stopping his team from losing the game and responding to your roam and keeping himself down or being selfish and farming while his team is behind.

Malix Farwin1 votes

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Nasus isn't a very common top lane pick either, let's be honest. He isn't played in competitive play at all. So arguing that, it's not really relevant because it's solo queue and you can play anything regardless of how common it is/isn't. And Cass is a flex pick, she's usually mid but she's a nightmare counterpick to immobile melee champs like Nasus or Singed.

correct me if i am wrong but i thought a 11% pick rate means he does see play quite often

HateDaddy1 votes

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correct me if i am wrong but i thought a 11% pick rate means he does see play quite often

It is a pretty good pickrate (which is why I mentioned he's a solo queue champion). But he's not played at all by pros, which is interesting considering solo queue is usually reflecting what's played in competitive play. I suspect Nasus is simply a popular champion at this point but not good enough to be played competitively. And he's pretty solid against the current meta top laners, which is all the more reason to play him.

It might be frustrating to play against him but I can't imagine it's any less frustrating to pick something only to have the enemy lock in Irelia or Gnar and you know you're totally boned. It goes both ways, which is why I said its solo queue and picking/counter picking is just a natural part of it. But I think people panic when they see Nasus and think they're in a bad match-up but you have to realize, he's a free early game pass for any champion he plays so get your items and roam and snowball things quickly. His teamfight is lackluster so the only fear is his split-push, which I admit is pretty lame. I hate splitpushing. But talking with your team can deal with it.

infinate 8s5 votes

xD I love the lulu entry as a lulu main because it is so true. I'd say she is the perfect counter for him... Her poke is insane with some added attack speed (I like to build runans) and she can just w you if you get close to try and q or auto.. not only that but her sheild will balance out spirit flame.. their ults are even similar :o

HateDaddy26 votes

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xD I love the lulu entry as a lulu main because it is so true. I'd say she is the perfect counter for him... Her poke is insane with some added attack speed (I like to build runans) and she can just w you if you get close to try and q or auto.. not only that but her sheild will balance out spirit flame.. their ults are even similar :o

Fuck you (politely).

infinate 8s7 votes

...Politely

I know I'm evil xD now that I think of it my other main (veigar) counters Nasus too.. Let's just say that any nasus main doesn't want to play against me

SushiKnight1 votes

Lulu still goes top :o I never saw top lulu anymore!

infinate 8s1 votes

Yes, although shes not as common she works really well against most melee champs :D Especially if they underestimate you. All you do is build items like wits end, bork, runaans, for maximum attack speed and damage and her auto attacks will hurt like hell (hence the name machine gun lulu)

Second Timor1 votes

very few champs can do anything against an ad lulu build though, if the player is any good at all

HateDaddy1 votes

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very few champs can do anything against an ad lulu build though, if the player is any good at all

Both are good vs Nasus

YossarianSensei3 votes

Yes we realize there are counterpicks to Nasus lol

Problem is very few people FP Nasus, and when you get counterpicked by Nasus it's nearly a guaranteed loss

Spacesuit Spiff1 votes

In diamond maybe? Half the nasus players in plat still haven't learned this, even when we're begging him to trade.

XxxLumberJackxxX3 votes

you said proxy singed was a problem for nasus.

So... i stopped reading

HateDaddy3 votes

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you said proxy singed was a problem for nasus.

So... i stopped reading

Thats unfortunate because if you continued reading, you'd have noticed I said it doesn't stop Nasus from farming but Nasus can never split-push vs Singed and Singed ruins his teamfight. Doesn't matter how stacked you are if you can't apply it to anything.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

You don't apply your stacks to the teamfights. What's with allt he Nasus players thinking that that's why his Q is OP? It's broken because he can build full tank and still nuke turrets. Doesn't matter if your team is disadvantaged in teamfights, you still slice the enemies' armor and if you walk to a turret at all, it's gone.

Leti the Yeti2 votes

I'm no Nasus main but here's my experience playing Nasus up against all his counters, teemo... darius.. riven.. you name it ;l you got... lvl1 ~ 3 to shut down Nasus Really, lets not even try at lvl4~6 and onward It becomes a meaningless struggle

HateDaddy5 votes

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I'm no Nasus main but here's my experience playing Nasus up against all his counters, teemo... darius.. riven.. you name it ;l you got... lvl1 ~ 3 to shut down Nasus Really, lets not even try at lvl4~6 and onward It becomes a meaningless struggle

In my opinion, Riven isn't a Nasus counter. She can cheese him early like she can most champions but a well played Nasus who trades with her while her shield is down from post leve 4 onward (as well as not dying to her lvl 6 cheese) beats Riven.

Teemo does work, especially AD Teemo. But playing Teemo screams gank me and Nasus sets up ganks on Teemo pretty decently, even with Teemos move quick. Still, if Teemo isn't pressured, it's an annoying lane and i don't wish to offend anyone when I say this, but probably a fantastic counterpick to him in lower elo (pantheon as well).

TheI3igDaddy2 votes

I'm a Cho main and I always cringe when I have to go up against Nasus. You say he puts out a lot of damage that he can't mitigate...but what are Spirit Visage and his passive, though? I can bully Nasus pretty hard pre-6, but I'm pretty much going to be pushing the wave and will open myself to ganks because Cho is slow as fuck and Wither makes him an easy gank target.

Maybe there are just better Cho players than I am; considering I'm only mid-gold, it's obvious.

HateDaddy2 votes

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I'm a Cho main and I always cringe when I have to go up against Nasus. You say he puts out a lot of damage that he can't mitigate...but what are Spirit Visage and his passive, though? I can bully Nasus pretty hard pre-6, but I'm pretty much going to be pushing the wave and will open myself to ganks because Cho is slow as fuck and Wither makes him an easy gank target.

Maybe there are just better Cho players than I am; considering I'm only mid-gold, it's obvious.

True damage and it's more oriented towards teamfights when I say that. Most top lane Chos build bruiser AP, which makes him tanky as fuck and shell out a lot of aoe damage to squishy targets. In lane, cho isn't really going to deny Nasus. And while you do open yourself up to ganks, warding helps and you can always shove + roam mid because you probably won't stop him from farming anyway.

You'll always keep him pushed and when he pushes back, Q + W clears waves so he can't establish any push on your turrets. And you're way too fucking tanky for him to dive as well.

As for teamfights, he just can't teamfight against you. If he tried to dive your carries, Rupture + Nom + W is going to take a big chunk of his health, regardless of his MR. And it's going to immobilize him to shit.

Xela Syab2 votes

Why isn't Fiora on here? She's the main nas counter imo since she can completely mitigate his damage, block all his combos and aoe, and melt nas if she gets ahead.

HateDaddy4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Xela Syab,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gML9u1k8,comment-id=0017,timestamp=2015-03-23T01:47:35.889+0000)

Why isn't Fiora on here? She's the main nas counter imo since she can completely mitigate his damage, block all his combos and aoe, and melt nas if she gets ahead.

She's annoying but it's just like Panth, Auto Q her parrey and its not that hard to deal with. She's more of what I'd consider like a Jax. The lane can go both ways from the early stages but if it gets to 20 minutes of brawling and farming with no deaths, Nasus is just going to take control and ram it down her throat.

Rand0mH3r0X1 votes

This is tips and tricks more than it is gameplay and balance. I'd recommend moving it now rather than later considering the time and text you've put into it...

HateDaddy2 votes

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This is tips and tricks more than it is gameplay and balance. I'd recommend moving it now rather than later considering the time and text you've put into it...

I don't think so, it is very gameplay oriented at its core because it's both informative and talks about how to deal with him and exploit him.

Xtremey1 votes

if you see a nasus top i almost always pick MasterYi in the jg to scale along with him and duel him lategame. As long as nasus can't one or two shot you, its easy enough to duel him.

HateDaddy1 votes

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if you see a nasus top i almost always pick MasterYi in the jg to scale along with him and duel him lategame. As long as nasus can't one or two shot you, its easy enough to duel him.

Nasus vs Yi is a tricky match-up because Nasus can actually kinda kite Yi with ghost + ult and the 50 bonus range. But full build Nasus (which easily has around 700 bonus damage on Q) dunks full build Yi. I think a bruiser Yi oriented build could stand a chance though.

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

I've never really laned against Nasus as Yi, but I have gone against him as a jungle Yi. It's really not that hard to fight him later in the game if you have your ultimate up, since it lets you ignore Wither.

Typical build would be item 3047 item 3718 item 3153, and then some situational items. item 3718 , item 3153 and Yi's E give a good mix of physical flat and percent health damage, magic damage, and true damage so he can't really itemize against you efficiently. item 3047 give you some armor (since Nasus doesn't really build armor pen) and reduce the damage of his autoattacks (including his Q) by 10%.

Get another armor item for survivability (item 3143 item 3075), some lifesteal (item 3072 or item 3074 ) and/or some magic resistance (item 3139 item 3156 item 3102 ) and you shouldn't really have any issues. Especially not if you use your W to mitigate at least one of Nasus's Qs to severely reduce his damage.

ChickenWrap1 votes

Something something even HateDaddy admits that ChOP'Gath, Freelo of The Void is OP.

HateDaddy6 votes

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Something something even HateDaddy admits that ChOP'Gath, Freelo of The Void is OP.

Cho is balanced dawg

Killer of Poros1 votes

How do you view the match up between him and Pantheon? I manage to keep him down for the the first minutes or so but then he just start completely ignoring me around ten minutes because of all his armor and sustain, along with the fact that he's almost as mana hungry as nasus early.

HateDaddy3 votes

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How do you view the match up between him and Pantheon? I manage to keep him down for the the first minutes or so but then he just start completely ignoring me around ten minutes because of all his armor and sustain, along with the fact that he's almost as mana hungry as nasus early.

To be honest, top lane pantheon is cheese as fuck. Starting cloth 5 with armor runes is really all you need to survive him. And with trades, you auto + Q to break panths passive and apply your Q damage. Level 6 all-in Nasus wins since Panths ult doesn't contribute much to an all-in. But it's still an annoying fucking lane and Panth can constantly go ham as fuck. But in reality, if as Nasus, you play it well, then Panth shouldn't be a problem.

Saixos1 votes

Question: What would be your opinion on Quinn VS Nasus in this matchup, and how would you deal with it on both sides? I'm considering picking her up properly as one of my top laners once her blind gets fixed in 5.6/5.7/whenever.

HateDaddy2 votes

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Question: What would be your opinion on Quinn VS Nasus in this matchup, and how would you deal with it on both sides? I'm considering picking her up properly as one of my top laners once her blind gets fixed in 5.6/5.7/whenever.

In all the time I've played Nasus, I've never lanes against Quinn. My guess is it would be Quinn's lane to lose until Nasus gets Frozen Heart, then it becomes iffy for Quinn. I don't know if she could deal with him then unless insanely fed.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

He'll win if he simply knows not to press Q when he's blind.

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

Riot "fixed" this a while ago. Blind no longer affects his Q.

Azurasha1 votes

Hatedaddy what do you have to say about Hecarim?

Also I hit 1k stacks and lost like a nub. Im sorry.

HateDaddy3 votes

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Hatedaddy what do you have to say about Hecarim?

Also I hit 1k stacks and lost like a nub. Im sorry.

Don't get cheesed at level 1 by rampage stacking and it's an easy lane. Thing you gotta watch out for is Hec teleporting bot lane and picking up kills for himself or his team because he's a god at this.

ChaoticPinecone1 votes

a 5v5 nasus lategame isnt too much of a problem - most adcs + janna/lulu can kite him easily. have both for nasus to not get one auto off in a fight. (i think MF is one of the few that has problems).

the problem is the backdoor. he only needs one ward and tp to 3 shot a tower. its more obnoxious than a yi/tryn splitpush, since he doesnt need minions.

HateDaddy2 votes

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a 5v5 nasus lategame isnt too much of a problem - most adcs + janna/lulu can kite him easily. have both for nasus to not get one auto off in a fight. (i think MF is one of the few that has problems).

the problem is the backdoor. he only needs one ward and tp to 3 shot a tower. its more obnoxious than a yi/tryn splitpush, since he doesnt need minions.

In order for him to facetank towers and do that kind of damage, you're talking substantial Q farm. I generally think Nasus should have his Qs damage capped on structures and in exchange give his wither MS steal and tenacity but that's a different discussion entirely.

Focus Teemo1 votes

Oh yeah HateDaddy you excited for Archduke Nasus? Personally gonna rock that on a dashing as fuck team comp with Gentlemen Cho :P

HateDaddy2 votes

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Oh yeah HateDaddy you excited for Archduke Nasus? Personally gonna rock that on a dashing as fuck team comp with Gentlemen Cho :P

Yeah man, the splash art is hilarious. He's such a stuck up douche bag in it, I love it.

Yfrappefort1 votes

What do you think about Teemo VS Nasus? Do you struggle when facing one?

Nice guide btw.

HateDaddy2 votes

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What do you think about Teemo VS Nasus? Do you struggle when facing one?

Nice guide btw.

Without jungle pressure, yes it's an annoying lane. But any jungler with half a brain will camp the living shit out of a Teemo and they don't mind giving up early objectives in exchange because a Teemo who is out behind turns the game into 5v4.

In lower elo, I would probably advise AP Teemo because the Nasus players won't be good at farming and they're easy to bait into shrooms.

In higher elo, I'd go with an AD or hybrid Teemo because the power of kiting is better than burst vs Nasus since they'll be better at farming, won't take shroom bait etc.

Espy Psyche1 votes

What about Garen vs Nasus?

Garen has the ability to cleanse Wither (with Q), turn around, hit Nasus hard and sprint off with the speed boost from it. He can also E in a minion wave to damage Nasus, while if Nasus hits Garen back he'll pull minion aggro. W gives Garen a huge chunk of defense, and an early Black Cleaver matches Nasus' Spirit Fire straight up. Additionally, Garen's ultimate hits high-HP Nasus extremely hard since it's based off missing total health.

HateDaddy2 votes

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What about Garen or Gangplank vs Nasus?

Garen has the ability to cleanse Wither (with Q), turn around, hit Nasus hard and sprint off with the speed boost from it. He can also E in a minion wave to damage Nasus, while if Nasus hits Garen back he'll pull minion aggro. W gives Garen a huge chunk of defense, and an early Black Cleaver matches Nasus' Spirit Fire straight up. Additionally, Garen's ultimate hits high-HP Nasus extremely hard since it's based off missing total health.

Gangplank, like Garen, can cleanse Wither. He also has a low-CD poke, high natural movespeed (and a sprint ability), and high natural attack damage. His low-CD poke can also crit and apply on-hit effects, leading to an early Statikk Shiv that chunks Nasus hard constantly. Add to the fact that his Q gives him gold if used to last hit minions, his normal build rushes an Avarice Blade, and he can ult when his teammates engage to pick up an assist from across the map, and he's a really hard foe to deal with unless he wastes his W.

Garen is an annoying lane and I argue with a friend who about this a lot. I truthfully think it's a fairly easy lane because Garen shoves lanes hard and his under tower harass isn't that great (but it is deceptively decent too). Cloth + 5 start and simply not standing inside Garens E makes it manageable. But I suspect, again, if you're good with Garen, it's probably not a bad pick either.

Gangplank, just no. He runs oom trying to poke you down and just a frozen heart alone makes his damage laughable for Nasus. Cleansing wither is great but Nasus doesn't have to wither GP, he can just Q him every time GP goes for farm in melee range. And when GP elects to farm with only Q from range, as Nasus, you just shove him under tower and take his tower from under him.

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